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Title: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on January 28, 2013, 07:40:11 am
Shield Skill

We have offensive abilities, even up to Taming using wolves as weapons, and using axes, an item that didn't start as a weapon in the Minecraft arsenal.

What we lack is a Defensive Skill. Acrobatics could be considered one, but it is even listed as Misc. because it wasn't designed as a Combat skill, it just got a small 'dodge' for subtle purposes.


My idea is this:
Shield Skill, a 100% chance to block a fraction of projectile damage when holding specified "shield items."
Tier 1: Trapdoor
Tier 2: Wood Door
Tier 3: Iron Door
Tier 4(?): Piston Head*
Tier 5: Blocking Sword

*Due to this block being unobtainable, it would probably be more suitable to make it a toggle, or some other method of enabling/disabling it. I only list it because it looks a lot like a shield, and actually inspired me to create this brainstorm.

Each tier would block a higher fraction of incoming projectile damage. It would require a sacrifice of offensive damage in order to without doubt absorb damage. The idea behind the top tier being Blocking Sword is that, at the max level, Swords gain a usage perk, and you no longer have to sacrifice damage output. Again, this is approximately level 1000 Shield Mastery with a 100% chance to block all projectile damage (not all damage types).
Because it's a 100% chance to block, tiers are unlocked by level, rather than a 'small chance' of using a higher tier shield at low levels.
Deflect Arrow is a small chance to block all damage, Shield is a 100% chance to block some damage.
Dodge barely even qualifies as an argument because it doesn't involve a weapon, nor does it have any certainty of occurring or how much will be blocked.

Mcmmo has 'abilities' tied to each of its skills. Some possible add-ons to shield could include:
Shield Bash (passive): A percent chance to +damage when attacking with a 'shield' but still not much more, as this skill is meant to be a Defensive one. Probably up to +2 (1 heart) at max level.
Super Blocker (active-needs more thought into name): An activated ability much like berserk, but adds +tier to the current shield blocking item. Possibly useless at max level, duration increased by level.

Possible exploits to be avoided:
Avoid dispenser-clocks shooting at players to powerlevel.

Give me any input, for, against, exploits, add-ons, anything really. I'm really considering pitching this to the mcmmo development team because it would be nice to see this in /mcstats, rather than a separate ModDamage command setup for all of this noise. In addition, plugins are better written in java, not ModDamage. Much more efficient that way.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: ZeroHex42 on January 28, 2013, 08:05:14 am
This is a great idea. I really like the idea of different "Teirs" of shields.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: cabass on January 28, 2013, 11:26:03 am
Isn't Shield blocker in League? Anyway im thinking one cool ability of those sorts every 100-150 levels
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: TAlegends on January 28, 2013, 11:27:18 am
Yeah great idea 1ce!
Love the idea off swords getting usefull.
As long as its not to easy to train then im totaly up fore it.
Good job!
 
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Frenzy_Monkey47 on January 28, 2013, 11:35:02 am
Nice idea it can be used against archery people.  (Lucas and blaze)
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on January 28, 2013, 11:57:19 am
Quote from: TAlegends
As long as its not to easy to train then im totaly up fore it.
Good job!

I'd imagine that because the method of gaining exp is similar (taking damage or dodging it) it would have a leveling speed similar to acrobatics, only slower still because a specific held item is required.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Barnitzn on January 28, 2013, 03:44:10 pm
YEAH!

I told someone on this server about doing something like this a while ago, this will make fights a lot more fun :D

Plus If possible I think that we should have durability for the shield much like how when you use a sword it gets damaged, so when you use your shield it will lose it durability and break. ( I don't know if that is possible without having minecraft make a health bar for it though)
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Z4X3R on January 28, 2013, 04:15:28 pm
It's cool, but I don't really want it on the server.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: hobo4chompy on January 28, 2013, 11:43:54 pm
Its a  good idea but if someone Lvl's it up so much it can make archery Useless
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on January 29, 2013, 01:13:41 am
It's cool, but I don't really want it on the server.
If this is integrated into mcMMO, you won't have a choice :p
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on January 29, 2013, 06:25:09 am
Its a  good idea but if someone Lvl's it up so much it can make archery Useless

Only to that one person with the high level. And it encourages multi-skill training, instead of focusing on just one skill or another, if you want to kill that Shield maniac.

It's cool, but I don't really want it on the server.

Whats your reason?
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Z4X3R on January 29, 2013, 08:50:05 am
I have a metathesiophobia.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on January 29, 2013, 08:55:20 am
I have a metathesiophobia.

You're gonna hate the new map then... (https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.hackforums.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fwhistle.gif&hash=e8db2edaf739250ec51ded7b663e786b)
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: blazequilava on February 05, 2013, 08:33:34 pm
Nice idea it can be used against archery people.  (Lucas and blaze)
What about tene Frenzy :3
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: blazequilava on February 05, 2013, 08:34:33 pm
Nice Idea 1ce, just one question, the Piston head, do you need to wear a piston with /hat? or have to hold it in the hand since only pokefans and up have /hat
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on February 05, 2013, 09:23:42 pm
Nice Idea 1ce, just one question, the Piston head, do you need to wear a piston with /hat? or have to hold it in the hand since only pokefans and up have /hat
It'll be a held item, toggleable, and impossible to move about in the inventory I'd imagine.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on February 05, 2013, 10:06:24 pm
I don't know why it would be unable to move in inventory?
The 'toggle' i mentioned would be an admin decision, to allow it would mean the admin would have to make them obtainable somehow.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on February 05, 2013, 10:52:51 pm
I don't know why it would be unable to move in inventory?
The 'toggle' i mentioned would be an admin decision, to allow it would mean the admin would have to make them obtainable somehow.
You could add the item to the rare-drops list in the mcMMO files. e.g. 1000excavation or something like that.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: daniel_stephen on February 22, 2013, 09:39:18 am
1ce I want you to add this skills its awsome pure awsome please add it.

Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: kingandre18 on March 03, 2013, 12:34:13 pm
Love the idea! As 1ce said, it promotes multi-skill training, because I'm getting frustrated of people only using bows and winning fights and wars.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Z4X3R on March 03, 2013, 01:18:11 pm
*cough* That's cause king can't use a bow for shit *cough*
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on March 04, 2013, 12:23:47 am
I'm waiting to see what new child skills will be in the new dev builds.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: ryancpexpert on March 19, 2013, 06:03:34 pm
I think its a great idea, But will it have a durability or will it just have unlimited uses?
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: FateandDestiny1 on March 20, 2013, 09:13:23 am
lol this was like in January
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on March 21, 2013, 05:10:26 pm
Still a relevant idea, and all posts were relevant. (until now)
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: ryancpexpert on March 21, 2013, 07:58:53 pm
1ce i really think this needs to be added, seeing that there are no defense skills it would be useful.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: GeoWhiz on May 16, 2013, 09:27:06 pm
I really like the way you are headed in this (Defensive Skills).


What SHOULD happen:


1st: Minecraft stops making it so swords block, and give a shield-like item.


If you hit the shift key with the shield in your inventory, it would block an attack a certain percent (Projectile or Fist/Swords)


After a lot if hits, it would wear out... It could be made by using different types of ingots for different amounts of protection...


It just feels weird with a sword, but yeah sorry for getting off track.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: WaffleDoc on June 13, 2013, 06:21:13 pm
sounds cool 1ce but per sonly the ways to use it sound a little weird maybe interpreting a new block or something?
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on June 17, 2013, 06:18:36 am
sounds cool 1ce but per sonly the ways to use it sound a little weird maybe interpreting a new block or something?

Its not a new block, its just using it for a purpose other than its original.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: snowbro911 on June 17, 2013, 08:03:45 am
Cool... And you should make it that shield makes no damage so the only way to attack in a battle is to go to weapon or unarmed, hense losing protection.


People will then argue that they will just stand there for hours on end waiting for the shield to drop. You should either make it, 1. Have it as a timed ability eg. Berserk or Serated Swords or 2. Have short durability on the item or do what edn said and make it so you need to press shift to make it work or 3. (which is probably already implemented) have it so you can attack from behind.


Just also saying, unarmed should be anled to disarm the shield at higher levels and that give another sort of modivation to train more evenly as stated before.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: raymondt99 on February 12, 2014, 10:52:42 pm
So are we going to add this ?
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on February 13, 2014, 01:59:43 pm
Ask the mcmmo developers, not us.
They've seen the post, and didn't shoot me down to my face, but otherwise it was deferred for later discussion.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Jimmyziga on April 29, 2014, 05:45:37 pm
I like the idea
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: 1cec0ld on April 30, 2014, 04:56:30 am
I'm waiting to see what new child skills will be in the new dev builds.

Long wait.
Title: Re: I have an idea for Mcmmo to add, but I want opinions first
Post by: Tenebrae on April 30, 2014, 05:29:04 am
Long wait.

Only new thing since has been Alchemy.