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Pixelmon Server => Problems => Topic started by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 24, 2013, 06:07:57 pm

Title: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 24, 2013, 06:07:57 pm
Today I was flying through the areas between the regions, looking for pokemon to beat, exploring the world, etc.  I saw a pokemon that caught my eye so I decided to see it.  Instead of pressing the "c" button which makes your pokemon descend, I pressed left shift and I fell to my death. I had 2 masterballs, 7 pokeballs, running shoes, a leather cap, and a super rod.  I didn't know exactly where I was, so I couldn't get my stuff back.  The admins probably won't refund my stuff but I want others to avoid the fate that I had.  I suggest that we should have /back or we can keep our inventory after we die.  Thank you for listening.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Z4X3R on August 24, 2013, 06:13:33 pm
I think 1ce mentioned that the admins were thinking of adding /back because it gives no pvp advantage here.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Miosio on August 24, 2013, 08:51:18 pm
 I havent heard about 1ce adding /back but I wouldn't be against it. As for an item refund I have to say no because it was your own fault for pressing the wrong button and falling to your death and lose your items.
 Just like if you fall off a cliff on the pvp server and fall to your death we wont refund because its your responsibility to not die or store your good items in an enderchest.
 
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 24, 2013, 08:59:59 pm
I don't think this would help but I died because of a glitch.  When I dismounted, I was close enough to the ground not to die, but since I landed on the back of my pokemon, I fell down a few times (I guess it was nocheatplus thinking I was falling).  It was about 15 blocks above the ground but I just fell and fell.  It was my responsibility that I fell but it's not my fault that I died.  If that glitch didn't happen, I would have landed safely and survived.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: hobo4chompy on August 25, 2013, 01:03:31 am
Saha i died when i logged in and i was buried undergroudn and i couldnt use /spawn or /home


Just gotta live with it bro
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Tenebrae on August 25, 2013, 02:56:16 am
For future reference, call your Pokémon back, don't just hop off.

The only issue with /back is its almost like setting another home. You can easily be out in some random are of the map, Pokémon have fainted, use /spawn and walk to the nearest Pokémon Centre, then use /back to get back to that random area, with fully healed Pokémon, if they faint again, just /back to get to the Centre, and /back to go back to random location.

I'm against /back.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Duckox on August 25, 2013, 03:12:14 am
For future reference, call your Pokémon back, don't just hop off.

The only issue with /back is its almost like setting another home. You can easily be out in some random are of the map, Pokémon have fainted, use /spawn and walk to the nearest Pokémon Centre, then use /back to get back to that random area, with fully healed Pokémon, if they faint again, just /back to get to the Centre, and /back to go back to random location.

I'm against /back.
I agree with Tene. If you die, you're responsible for your own death.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 25, 2013, 07:11:52 am
okay... Well I'm buying masterballs if anyone has them for sale
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 25, 2013, 07:14:00 am
And if back isn't an option, maybe we could just keep our inventory when we die?
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 25, 2013, 09:25:47 am
Sorry for posting so much on here but I lost my super rod during that and I can't replace it. The next time an admin is on when I'm on, could you give me a super rod?  I tried getting another one by pushing the button but it won't let me.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 25, 2013, 10:40:17 am
I agree with Tene. If you die, you're responsible for your own death.
So it's my fault that I died from a glitch I didn't know about before that... makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Anonymouslyanon on August 25, 2013, 06:21:16 pm
Instead of pressing the "c" button which makes your pokemon descend, I pressed left shift and I fell to my death.
this isn't a glitch. pressing left shift dismounts you off your pokemon.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 25, 2013, 06:58:11 pm
I wasn't saying that pressing left shift was a glitch. Did you read all of reply #3? I said that when I dismounted, I landed on Aerodactyl's back.  That made nocheat or something think I was flying so it put my back in the place I was before I "flew".  It forced me to fall multiple times, killing me.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Tenebrae on August 25, 2013, 09:35:44 pm
As I saw someone else post, you're responsible for your death, no matter how it happens. You should realise Pixelmon is still an incredibly buggy mod, and learn to live around that.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: ~Ali~ on August 26, 2013, 02:58:45 am
Tene, you should also be a reliable server. If something happens to my items, the ones in question that are also donated to actually acquire (masterball). I need to know and be assured that the items can and will be retrieved.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: oddy on August 26, 2013, 05:35:38 am
Tene, you should also be a reliable server. If something happens to my items, the ones in question that are also donated to actually acquire (masterball). I need to know and be assured that the items can and will be retrieved.
that would make sense of the items were traceable, the fact that anyone could use or sell their donation items makes refunds for death unrealistic. How do you differentiate the guy who died and lost master balls from the guy who sold them and claims he died with them? Also the fact you can store items you aren't using(no need to keep all your master balls on you always) makes loss of multiple balls more on you.

But hey I'm not an admin here, just my two cents.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Tenebrae on August 26, 2013, 08:13:29 am
Tene, you should also be a reliable server. If something happens to my items, the ones in question that are also donated to actually acquire (masterball). I need to know and be assured that the items can and will be retrieved.
 


that would make sense of the items were traceable, the fact that anyone could use or sell their donation items makes refunds for death unrealistic. How do you differentiate the guy who died and lost master balls from the guy who sold them and claims he died with them? Also the fact you can store items you aren't using(no need to keep all your master balls on you always) makes loss of multiple balls more on you.

But hey I'm not an admin here, just my two cents.
 


Basically what Oddy here said. Theres no knowing if you traded/sold your items off to someone.


Its not hard to stay alive on a server with no PvP or drowning damag.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sweaty on August 26, 2013, 01:49:35 pm
Forget /back, what about the thing were you don't lose items from your inventory upon death?
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Tenebrae on August 26, 2013, 02:56:06 pm
Forget /back, what about the thing were you don't lose items from your inventory upon death?

You're responsible for your own death, if you dismount while flying, your problem. If you fall in a hole and die, your problem. There aren't many ways to die, and the ways that are, they're easy to avoid.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: 1cec0ld on August 26, 2013, 05:13:52 pm
Mmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooo

I think we actually had keepInventory gamerule on when we were in beta, and I am currently confuddled as to how it got disabled again.
Please confirm or deny my memory <.<
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sahaquiel_9 on August 26, 2013, 06:13:34 pm
If this is true, and keeping inventory was supposed to happen on the server, I think I should get a refund of my stuff.  And if you don't believe that I lost 2 masterballs, I can tell you the exact history of them.  I used one on a charmander (now charizard) and another on a seadra that I thought was shiny but it wasn't.  I have one in my inventory right now and I lost 2 of them when I died (if you couldn't already tell; I made this post because I lost them).  I have never bought a masterball from anyone on this server and I do want my items refunded because I did die of a glitch.  Although pixelmon is very buggy, that is not a reason to not refund items because I never knew about the bug.  It's not like I was trying to exploit it; I was landing to check something out and it happened.  It was not my responsibility that I fell to my death because I was only about 8 blocks in the air.  I would have safely landed but that bug killed me.  I don't understand why it's my fault that I died of a glitch that I didn't know about before.  All I really want is a refund of my items that I donated for (and my super rod; I can't get another one since it said I already got one). 


TL;DR: I think we should keep our inventory upon death and I want the items I donated for (and my super rod) back.  It was not my fault that I died of a bug that I didn't know about previously and it's not a very valid reason. 
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on August 26, 2013, 06:55:17 pm
Even if /back was put in soon (highly doubt it), there is no way to know if you traded or sold your items away.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Tenebrae on August 26, 2013, 09:47:14 pm
Mmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooo

I think we actually had keepInventory gamerule on when we were in beta, and I am currently confuddled as to how it got disabled again.
Please confirm or deny my memory <.<

I don't believe we did.

Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: Sweaty on August 26, 2013, 09:56:02 pm
Mmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooo

I think we actually had keepInventory gamerule on when we were in beta, and I am currently confuddled as to how it got disabled again.
Please confirm or deny my memory <.<
While Beta Testing I personally don't remember keeping the inventory. I would die this same way then fly to my death location for my items. Though maybe i have bad memory and we had it.
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on August 26, 2013, 10:30:33 pm
I remember the keepInventory >.>
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: 1cec0ld on August 26, 2013, 11:20:31 pm
Mmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooo

I think we actually had keepInventory gamerule on when we were in beta, and I am currently confuddled as to how it got disabled again.
Please confirm or deny my memory <.<
Title: Re: /back or keeping stuff
Post by: ~Ali~ on August 27, 2013, 04:19:36 am
Actually we did. Only admins and ops did though. We just kept our inventories though, it wasn't the rule.