Pokemon Server Archive
PvP Server => Ban/Punishment-Related => Topic started by: Paradox on February 08, 2012, 10:50:59 am
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I suppose I'll make the topic:
We have come to a general consensus on revising our bans and whatnot for certain people. I will address only the people that were dsicussed, so if your name is mentioned, your punishment is still the same.
Equinox:
After revision, we decided that an punishment you received was unjustified. So the item swap will be undone (If it was done, if it was not, then nothing will be done) and we hope for your forgiveness.
TA:
After revision, we decided that we are going to put a 2 week temp ban on you. As for further punishment, such as item swipe, is still not fully discussed. But you will be welcomed back on the server.
War/Archie: We talked about unbanning both of you individually, but you have many strikes behind you. Apparently War had already been banned twice and got two appeals passed, so this is literally his third strike. As for Archie, you may have gotten away from a permaban if you hadn't gotten in alt accounts and harasses zombie. But you did, and this disrespect can't stand, and will result in your permaban that also reaches from past strikes. But, if you were banned from TS (Which I'm not sure if you were), you will be unbanned,
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But i didnt go on an alt. it was my friend meerca8. I sent him on to the server to ask if i could be unbanned from TS to discuss. :(
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Also i dont understand why some people are being punished more than others
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I find it funny how mine and archies friend meerca8 sent us this screenshot saying how archie went on to my account and raged about his ban.
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx472%2FArchiesalt%2F2012-02-08_173252.png&hash=5b8c08d077d3b1dfc704e5122efb3f63)
I actually logged onto my account the other day and tried to discuss archies punishment with 1ce and zombie. 1ce said he would set up an admin meeting to discuss punishments and whatnot. then i started talking to bespinben about how he feels about the situation and when zombie logged on i invited him to our party so we could talk about it. Zombie basically just told us both to shut up and keep our nose out of admin business. Yet archie is being accused of going on my account and im accused of losing my temper which i certainly did not do.
Just thought id try and clear this part of the mess up.
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kk so i get 20 days ban and maby a item swipe ?
I realy dont wane lose my stuff :(
well 20 days is a long time fore me ... il miss the fun on there .
and para may i also ask why archie got a perm ban ?
because he entered after me so he wass less in there then all off us .
could you mention archie his bann with the admins and think about it again pleas ?
because he is a loyal member to the server + he donated .
PS: thank you fore the help para to figure this all out .
-TA-
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Hey I was just now able to get on the forums.
I dont see why me and archie should be permabanned. I mean honestly I was just trying to get in to say I was first. Thats why I was on at 4am. You guys said that the nether was to open that day (or so I heard...) and why else would there be an open portal? Yes it was "blocked" off but that could have simply been put there to keep EVERYONE from going into the nether except the older members.
This has been a huge disaster I agree but I have fully cooperated and I dont feel that my actions in the past should even be considered here. Yes I was in the wrong but the only reason I have ever been banned is because I was trying to have a chance to further enjoy the server. The first ban was because I was trying to have fun and happen to run into an unpermissioned pixel art. And the second time (giving diamonds to Bespin from creative) was only done because I was tired of being destroyed at the War@mtmoon battles when both admins and higher players showed up in diamond armor. This is no different as I knew that the "higher up" players would get in here first and take everything good for themselves. I already told you where everything is and I dont see why I should be banned permanently.
I know I have no final say but this is my opinion and I felt it needed saying.
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Also has Liquid not been banned? He went in and got netherwarts too
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Hey I was just now able to get on the forums.
Yes it was "blocked" off but that could have simply been put there to keep EVERYONE from going into the nether except the older members.
Trainer gets ender pearl. Trainer proves this idea is bunk.
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Id like to address punishments as they are really confusing.
Everybody did the same crime except from war who discovered the way in ( Possibly deserves greater punishment)
But besides Warmonger everybody did the same crime.
BUT
The punishments have been totally out of proportion.
Me: Perma ban
War: Perma ban
Bjz/Jr/Rewas/Price: 3 day ban, item swipe and balance reset
Equin0x: No item swipe but 3 day ban
TA: 20 day ban, other factors not decided.
Liquid: Bal reset, 3 day ban, no item swipe and doesnt lose his house.
I believe these punishments are unfair as everybody was caught doing the same thing wrong - Going behind admins backs (Something none of us should have done)
Ive been accused of going on jedds account which has been proven wrong. Yet im still banned even though i quote you may have gotten away from a permaban if you hadn't gotten in alt accounts and harasses zombie.
I believe everybodies punishment should be the same except from war given his circumstances and i know that i myself am on thin ice but as war got 2 chances id like a second chance.
Here is what i think the punishment should be:
Everybody 3 day ban
1 month ban from nether starting from when it opens
No item swipe
Balance reset
All but 1 houses stripped from us.
I believe this is a fair punishment and would like other admins opinions on the subject.
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Also has Liquid not been banned? He went in and got netherwarts too
I've already had my 3 day ban. Unlike you I haven't done other transgressions in the past. Stop trying to get me more in trouble when it was your idea in the first place. Finally everyone who went into the nether but Equin0x found nether warts.
1ce: so is the Stat Swipe set in stone, because everyone took months to get stats and it didn't have to do with the Nether. I see the item swipe as relevant since Nether Items although I already burned all the stuff i found in the nether after I came back out of the portal. But I think the Stat Swipe is way too much, I asked Zombie about it he also disagreed. If most admins disagreed i don't see why it's set in stone.
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Id like to address punishments as they are really confusing.
Equin0x: No item swipe but 3 day ban
TA: 20 day ban, other factors not decided.
Liquid: Bal reset, 3 day ban, no item swipe and doesnt lose his house.
I believe these punishments are unfair as everybody was caught doing the same thing wrong - Going behind admins backs (Something none of us should have done)
I believe this is a fair punishment and would like other admins opinions on the subject.
Forgot Stat Swipe
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Archie, you have paste strikes against you as well. i don't agree with the stat swipe, i wasn't aware that was going to occur.
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Wait wait wait, the "Ashgang" never found ANY NetherWarts, and yes Paradox, the stat swipe DID occur and an item swipe. Also, I am still banned from the server, even tho I served my 3 day ban (Also rewas is unbanned, but you guys never bothered to unban me) I was told that this happened because you guys didn't do an item swipe yet when you guys had 3 days to do it. I also think that the punishments toward us are completely out of proportion, and I do agree with Archie's terms, there is no reason to do a complete item swipe. I think it is fair to ban us from the nether for about a month. I also think that the balance reset is fair, and the nether items that we own removed. Certain admins tell me that we are lucky that we are not perma-banned but if you TRULEY think about it, our worst crimes are Trolling the server hard back then, and entering the Nether, while others have spawned diamonds, broke countless important rules, and went behind admins backs. (Also trash-talked admins). So this is what I think of the topic I hope that you guys will discuss my imput on it.
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I think we should all get a ban fore arround 3 - 10 days .
And not alowed in the nether fore a while .
And I dont think we need a item , bal , stats swipe because alot a people playde around more Then 5 month's fore them so its not like you can get it in 5 min fore a screw up from all off us That maby was around 5-10 min (im not saying I dident screw up because i realy did).
This is what I think are the best punishments .
Exept fore war I think a ban fore 20 days and a bal reset .
Just my view ^^ (alot a people will probattly hate my idea about this)
Because 20 days without poke server is a looong time fore me XD
Miss you guys hope to see ya soon !
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Im happy to accpet my ban (though im slightly sore that hix has Bob's Cottage) but same as Bjz im sstill banned even after serving my time. If you could unban me that would be very much apreciated.
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Archie, you have paste strikes against you as well. i don't agree with the stat swipe, i wasn't aware that was going to occur.
I know that i have strikes on my name too but i am truly sorry and as war got a second chance before, i would really like to have one too. Spawning diamonds and entering the nether are both things i regret doing. they were idiotic and immature descisions which i once made. I have learnt from my mistakes like i did after spawning diamonds.
I apologize to every admin for going behind their backs and entering the nether. I can guarantee that everything i do from now on will be followed by a thought of what the consequences will be.
To Miosio, I apologize for being immature and an overall pain in the ass druing Bjz and Djs champion fight.
To Zombie, I apologize for bugging you about whether i got into the build team a long time ago.
To 1cec0ld, I am sorry for going behind your back and entering the nether even after you made the broadcast.
To Rigby, I am sorry for backchatting you at certain times and being disrespectful behind your back. I have not done this in a long time.
To Paradox, Im sorry if ive ever upset you in anyway before.
To Oddy/Annie, I apologize for being jealous when you got mod and i hope that one day you can be great admins like the ones we currently have.
Im truly sorry for anything ive ever done wrong.
-Archie Saltmarsh
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Even tho I'm not getting perma-banned I'm going to follow Archie's example...
Mio: I'm sorry for being a pain, and or an annoying prick and bothering you about things I already knew the answer too
Rigby: We're cool so no worries ^_^
Zombie: I know that you have yet to see "the light" in me, you probably still think I'm as much as an AshGanger as I used to be, but the truth is I changed my ways and I'm sorry for giving you problems on the server back then
1ce: I'm sorry for any troubles I have ever caused you in the past
Paradox: I'm sorry for the Netherrack incident and etc. etc. thanks for being my epic Karaoke buddy ^_^
Oddy/Anniiee: I can now say with full confidence, and proof to back me up... that you are both sexy ;)
I'm truly sorry for trolling the server back then, I do believe that I have changed (for the better) the Nether was just a stupid decision on my part and I really hope you re-consider the consequences for me, and others that I feel have wrong done by them.
-BjZ
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*claps*
fore archie and bjz
wow you guys are a great exampell atm !
and thats why il step in youre footsteps !
i appolegise to :
zombie : fore telling you i dident knowe i shouldent enter the nether .
(i wil also appolegise to you on TS if i get the chance ^^)
rigby : sorry fore having a fight with you ingame were i got banned .
mio : fore being a bit strange from time to time XD
para : fore still not being abel to find out how my bank card works so i can donate .
1ce : fore me getting myself kicked and saying i luve it XD <-- good times
(idk if you were angry fore this )
oddy : sorry fore asking fore a kick
And i hope we can all figure out this hole nether thing soon .
luv ya all !
-TA-
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Even tho I'm not getting perma-banned I'm going to follow Archie's example...
Mio: I'm sorry for being a pain, and or an annoying prick and bothering you about things I already knew the answer too
Rigby: We're cool so no worries ^_^
Zombie: I know that you have yet to see "the light" in me, you probably still think I'm as much as an AshGanger as I used to be, but the truth is I changed my ways and I'm sorry for giving you problems on the server back then
1ce: I'm sorry for any troubles I have ever caused you in the past
Paradox: I'm sorry for the Netherrack incident and etc. etc. thanks for being my epic Karaoke buddy ^_^
Oddy/Anniiee: I can now say with full confidence, and proof to back me up... that you are both sexy ;)
I'm truly sorry for trolling the server back then, I do believe that I have changed (for the better) the Nether was just a stupid decision on my part and I really hope you re-consider the consequences for me, and others that I feel have wrong done by them.
-BjZ
Please quote my post about punishments if you have an opinion to share, and are we cool?
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I got unbanned from TS and began to talk to zombie about what he said the night i got banned. and then he banned me again from TS.
Heres some proof that i was mislead/mistreated.
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx472%2FArchiesalt%2FScreenshot2012-02-09at212956.png&hash=19584498454a077803f1d92b6178fcab)
I come clean and im perma banned. Yet here he says i wont face the worst punishment.
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I got unbanned from TS and began to talk to zombie about what he said the night i got banned. and then he banned me again from TS.
Heres some proof that i was mislead/mistreated.
([url]https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx472%2FArchiesalt%2FScreenshot2012-02-09at212956.png&hash=19584498454a077803f1d92b6178fcab[/url])
I come clean and im perma banned. Yet here he says i wont face the worst punishment.
First of all, you probably just pissed off all the admins
You think in an interrogation room, they would be nice to him, THEY NEED TO SCARE THEM INTO CONFESSING IT.
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Archie, You were given the chance to come back and be nice in ts the first thing you do is say "I dont want to cause problems, But you admit that you said I would be given a light punishment" and even with your screen cap of it Proves I didnt. You do realise I NEVER said that. I said if you don't you face the worst I can do. There can be alot worse done here. ALOT worse. You came in there and demanded I come clean with a lie I never told. You grow up, You cannot talk to people like this. Specially the people who Run this for people like you. Not tolerable. If you keep this up I will see my worst possible punishment is Dealt because you cannot simply Leave well enough alone.
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Worst I can imagine: using any and every method possible to make you want to leave. Fairness negligible.
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Here are my stats incase you don't have it
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F9987%2F20120205120730.png&hash=2a4ecf8586c5cd1f6858522b41dd8c50) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/20120205120730.png/)
Also i lost my house, I don't think that seems reasonable since i spent tons of work on the house including spending all my badges on it. Why was it given to Dax when Tn was my co owner?
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I give up, it seems barely anybody wants me back on the server, so here goes.
Goodbye vitto, I hope you one day become and elite/champ, you deserve it
Goodbye alexandred, Good luck leading cinnabar gym and making it a better gym than i did
Goodbye liquid, i hope you enjoy your time on the server
Goodbye TA, ill see you around, and i hope you get elite back
Goodbye price, have a nice time on the server
Goodbye Dj, i hope you get the SSaqua and forfil your life long dream of owning all the boats in pokemon
Goodbye Tn, Enjoy leading cerulean gym and remodelling it
Goodbye Mario, im sorry i mistook you for somebody else in this whole nether event, please forgive me
Goodbye Komet, I hope TA will be able to give your sword back
Goodbye equin0x, i wish you luck on finding another gym leader with 500+ unarmed skill
Goodbye Bjzrgood, ill never forget when you used to troll admins
Goodbye Rewas, enjoy your LoL and Gary's Mod
Goodbye Jr, I rarely see you but goodbye dude
Goodbye hix, you bought mine and prices lighthouse >:( lol jk see you around!
Goodbye oddy, i wish you luck on your journey to become an admin
Goodbye Anniiee, i wish you the same as oddy
Goodbye yahel, i rarely see you now but i remember when you were a newbie and we kicked ass at CTF
Goodbye Bg, i wish you luck leading pewter gym!
Goodbye mitzr, i remember your awesome brendan skin
Goodbye Doom, you currently lead the hardest gym, be proud of it
Goodbye Prodigy, i remember when you first joined and took an awesome picture of me confronting you
Goodbye Thort, i barely know you but you got first champion, and thats an achievement in my books.
Goodbye kenshin, i wish i could be involved with your brilliant projects. But i cant
Goodbye Dazzle, i wish you luck on beating Stng in mctop mining
Goodbye Zoom, you have the best nickname ever
Goodbye Church, I look forward to your scene in pokenews
Goodbye war, I dislike you
Goodbye Rigby, good luck leading cianwood gym in the future
Goodbye Paradox, Im gonna miss your cookie monster skin
Goodbye Zombie, I know we havent parted on the best terms. But see you later
Goodbye 1ce, I wish you luck with your server, i may come on one day
Goodbye miosio, i hope that one day price will stop being so creepy
Goodbye everyone!
:'(
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Archie, You were given the chance to come back and be nice in ts the first thing you do is say "I dont want to cause problems, But you admit that you said I would be given a light punishment" and even with your screen cap of it Proves I didnt. You do realise I NEVER said that. I said if you don't you face the worst I can do. There can be alot worse done here. ALOT worse. You came in there and demanded I come clean with a lie I never told. You grow up, You cannot talk to people like this. Specially the people who Run this for people like you. Not tolerable. If you keep this up I will see my worst possible punishment is Dealt because you cannot simply Leave well enough alone.
Im sorry hopefully, one day ill be unbanned from TS, it wont happen again.
For now goodbye.
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Ok now, I'm outraged. HOW CAN YOU DELETE ALL THE ROOMS OF MY FREAKING HOUSE. TN AND I BUILT THEM LONG WITH WOOL AND NICE FURNITURE. MONTHS OF WORK DESTROYED. Are you serious Rigby clearing all my stuff. You didn't even clear Pricey's Lighthouse. AND TN IS MY FREAKING CO OWNER. For gods sakes, this is over the top.
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I suggest we do make public the punishments for every player, instead of only mentioning the ones who were banned in the first post. This might clear up some issues.
In addition to informing me of any changes we don't want saved, since I did back up everything before the record-wipe was made. So that screenshot is probably farther out-of-date than my backup is.
All I await is admin approval to restore anything. Including portions of the map, since I saved that as well.
Archie, you and anyone who knows the IP are welcome still, your actions have no impact on that aspect of me. Further communication on this subject to be held on the document.
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I think that is a better idea. Maybe next time we need admin approval for clearing huge lands or to check the permissions first.
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saffronhouse21:
min: {z: 789.0, y: 0.0, x: 167.0}
flags: {}
max: {z: 797.0, y: 74.0, x: 175.0}
priority: 0
parent: saffroncity
type: cuboid
owners:
players: [liquidfired, kimotherapy, tnguyen1]
members: {}
Excerpt from the pre-clear backup. Phyiscal evidence that the inheritors of Saffronhouse21 should have been Kimotherapy and tnguyen1. Please clear up this mistake. And check owners before you list a house for sale. Because now all 3 of them (since Daxcraft is now on this list) are listed as owners.
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why after i readed all of this i just got sad and my hole day was messd up ?
pff ... archie pleas dont leave us ! pleas dont ! pleas !
And could i also ask why i got banned from TS again ?
because i was abel to go on yesterday but nowe not anymore ?
pleas help -TA-
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why after i readed all of this i just got sad and my hole day was messd up ?
pff ... archie pleas dont leave us ! pleas dont ! pleas !
And could i also ask why i got banned from TS again ?
because i was abel to go on yesterday but nowe not anymore ?
pleas help -TA-
TA im banned and unfortunately, thats not going to change.
Goodbye
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well miss you Goodbye !!
:'( :'(
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why after i readed all of this i just got sad and my hole day was messd up ?
pff ... archie pleas dont leave us ! pleas dont ! pleas !
And could i also ask why i got banned from TS again ?
because i was abel to go on yesterday but nowe not anymore ?
pleas help -TA-
TA im banned and unfortunately, thats not going to change.
Goodbye
There's always Tn's server. There will always be a spot open for you (literally I'm always kicking random people join whenever you want)
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Has the IP changed? i havent seen it up in a while.
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Same ip
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will i also stay banned from TS fore 20 days ?
because i was abel to log in 2 days ago .
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6 days after his ban, Archie is on the brink of insanity.
Could i be unbanned from TS?
Im not going to start anything
I just want to talk to you all again :)
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I'm not too sure 100% why you're banned from TS still. I saw the picture, but the entire thing is a bit fuzzy to me...
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para could i by unbanned from TS ?
il by nice and not make any problems at all .
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I'm not too sure 100% why you're banned from TS still. I saw the picture, but the entire thing is a bit fuzzy to me...
I was unbanned like i said earlier but was banned like a minute later by zombie when i asked him to admit he said i wouldnt get the worst punishment he could give.
Which to be honest doesnt make sense because i dont know what could be worse than perma ban.
Well im still kind of upset because i miss everybody. My only form of communication is through this forums.
I was thinking of donating again even though im banned.
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I'm not too sure 100% why you're banned from TS still. I saw the picture, but the entire thing is a bit fuzzy to me...
I was unbanned like i said earlier but was banned like a minute later by zombie when i asked him to admit he said i wouldn't get the worst punishment he could give.
Archie says asked, Zombie says demanded.
So I suggest you clarify your intent with him, to smooth over the hard feelings.
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I will 1ce ;)
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Can you admins decide if I get my stats or not? I've had them taken away given back and taken away again.
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I keep trying to klick that connect button on, TS ...
But then i realise i'm banned there ..
And then i remeber that this is probattly the 100st time i klicked that today ... :p
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
Yay!
Also paradox, could you or another admin start a whole new thread/category for hoenn so we can discuss on there. Because alot of people are building
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
Yay!
Also paradox, could you or another admin start a whole new thread/category for hoenn so we can discuss on there. Because alot of people are building
I have an idea. Give me a few minutes.
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There you go. Better organized anyways.
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
What do you mean by this?
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
What do you mean by this?
Don't worry, I sent out a message to the admins.
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
What do you mean by this?
Don't worry, I sent out a message to the admins.
Ok. *Crosses fingers*
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
Sorry but this is bothering me what do you mean?
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Okay, this is all getting way out of hand. We REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS.
Sorry but this is bothering me what do you mean?
We, the admins, are discussing the situation.
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Ok, Im sorry for intruding
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Thanks for saying goodbye to be Archie :(
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I dont know why but I can only get on the forums once in a while (stupid school security settings...). Ok so hre it goes.
To everyone I am truely sorry (admins and fellow players alike). I have caused many problems on the server and I really shouldnt be unbanned but please hear me out. I really love this server and everyone on it. I remember how small this server used to be and I feel that as it gets even bigger you guys need al the experienced players on as you can get. I feel I have alot of experience that I can share with our newest batch of players. Also to be completely honest I have nowhere else to go, this is the first and only minecraft server I have ever been on and I dont even know where to find a new server to join. I have spent countless hours developing this server (building parts of Johto) and even now as I have been banned I am still working to develope the server. Yes you heard me I am still working on it. As of this moment me and Bespinben are building all of the Unova region on my personal server. The plan is to give you guys the map as soon as we finish it. I dont know if you will even want it or not but my hope is that you will take it as a thank you gift from me for all the great memories I have had on your server. Thank you.
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I'm sorry to call you out like this Warmonger, but what's the point of building Unova when we can't release it until Sinnoh is built?
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We don't have to release in a linear fashion, we can do all we want.
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Oh that's pretty legit ^_^
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Thanks for saying goodbye to be Archie :(
lol sorry jourdy, its hard to remember everybody on the server.
Theyre's so many people.
goodbye jourdy
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This topic is slowly dying :'(
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Well, as far as I'm aware, stats will be restored. Not much else to discuss.
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Stats ARE restored you derps!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Stats ARE restored you derps!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Umm I think your forgetting someone... =/
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Then that someone should have said so
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Umm, that someone is me... and I don't have stats =/
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I guess im not unbanned :'(
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some1 knowes howlong im still banned ?
thank you verry much. -TA-
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some1 knowes howlong im still banned ?
thank you verry much. -TA-
^ Not good at maths
lol jk
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The 2 week ban started February 5th.
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some1 knowes howlong im still banned ?
thank you verry much. -TA-
^ Not good at maths
lol jk
jk ? ... well its tru XD
and thank you 1ce 10 more to go im on 1/2 !
feelz like a month ... :/
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The 2 week ban started February 5th.
Is it 2 week or 20?
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TA it feels like a year since you've been on xP
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To me, it feels like 2 months, time has gone out of control!
We have to find the hidden land and place the time gears in temporal tower!
Oh no! Grovyle! Noooooooo.....
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I agree with Vitto! LETS DO IT! 8)
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I agree with Vitto! LETS DO IT! 8)
Thats a very nice guild you have there ;)
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Why thank you sir ;)
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Why thank you sir ;)
SSSSSssssssSSSSSSSssssssssSSSSSSSsssssss
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Ohhhh shit...
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Hate to be the joy killer in all of this, but the results are discussed are finalized. No point in keeping this open. :)
!LOCKED