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Title: Reset Poll
Post by: Prodigy39 on July 20, 2014, 11:54:50 pm
With the new maps coming, I've had several suggestions that the community should vote what goes and what stays. While we do have a good idea what's going and what's staying your input is still appreciated.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 20, 2014, 11:57:35 pm
I'd personally prefer a fresh start.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 21, 2014, 12:02:45 am
Coming... sometime late 2014.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Jimmyziga on July 21, 2014, 12:10:31 am
A lot of hard-work will be gone...
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Prodigy39 on July 21, 2014, 12:14:20 am
Well, whats the point of a fresh map and such if players keep stuff. Newbs would be at a really big disadvantage.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Lucasrx on July 21, 2014, 12:17:12 am
Meh whatever happens Ill have a screenshot.  :hattip:
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 21, 2014, 12:19:55 am
Well, whats the point of a fresh map and such if players keep stuff. Newbs would be at a really big disadvantage.
Yeah. I just feel newer players would have a hard time against someone with 1000 axes 1000 unarmed and 1000 archery while trying to get a gym badge
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 21, 2014, 12:20:44 am
And this poll probably means nothing. The admins could easily say, "meh, just get rid of all their items and money."
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 21, 2014, 02:51:22 am
And this poll probably means nothing. The admins could easily say, "meh, just get rid of all their items and money."

While we do have a good idea what's going and what's staying your input is still appreciated.

Polls made by administrators rarely mean nothing, unless they are in the General Discussion section.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: synderfin on July 21, 2014, 03:22:59 am
I feel if money is going to be wiped we should at least be compensated by being allowed to preorder a house in the new map. Otherwise it's going to be years before anyone could possibly afford big houses like sky scrapers, mansions or ships. The only reason people can even afford them now is because of the whole brocken voting system situation. Carrying on from that, why bother wiping money when people are going to spend up to 100K on these sorts of places anyway.




I can see why people would want mcmmo to be wiped but items, seriously? People worked so hard to get some of the items they have and I feel that the majority of people who voted to wipe these things are the users too lazy to work for them or are new and can't be bothered to spend as long as others have. I've personally spent, as of the 28th, 3 years saving up all the money and items I have and to be honest, the only reason I've kept all this money and not spent it on items, ever since production on the other regions started 2 years ago, was to buy a big house in the new map. Many people know this, Shark Towers has been a dream of mine since we knew Unova was being built. I'm trying to sympathise with the new players but personally I'm going to feel really cheated if I don't get to spend that money. All those times I couldn't participate in tournaments or use anything that costed money to keep saving up for a sky scraper would be wasted. I feel like I'm sounding a bit selfish here but I believe that some other multiple year long members would at least appreciate the ability to cash in our money for a new house.



Also, if you intend on deleting all items, what about VIPs? Are you going to reset them all as they are made up of people's items? And the wilds, the same applies to them.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 21, 2014, 04:09:34 am
A lot of hard-work will be gone...


I don't why you ever started playing Minecraft in the first place.


Polls made by administrators rarely mean nothing, unless they are in the General Discussion section.

Nothing, or anything?

I feel if money is going to be wiped we should at least be compensated by being allowed to preorder a house in the new map. Otherwise it's going to be years before anyone could possibly afford big houses like sky scrapers, mansions or ships. The only reason people can even afford them now is because of the whole brocken voting system situation. Carrying on from that, why bother wiping money when people are going to spend up to 100K on these sorts of places anyway.




I can see why people would want mcmmo to be wiped but items, seriously? People worked so hard to get some of the items they have and I feel that the majority of people who voted to wipe these things are the users too lazy to work for them or are new and can't be bothered to spend as long as others have. I've personally spent, as of the 28th, 3 years saving up all the money and items I have and to be honest, the only reason I've kept all this money and not spent it on items, ever since production on the other regions started 2 years ago, was to buy a big house in the new map. Many people know this, Shark Towers has been a dream of mine since we knew Unova was being built. I'm trying to sympathise with the new players but personally I'm going to feel really cheated if I don't get to spend that money. All those times I couldn't participate in tournaments or use anything that costed money to keep saving up for a sky scraper would be wasted. I feel like I'm sounding a bit selfish here but I believe that some other multiple year long members would at least appreciate the ability to cash in our money for a new house.



Also, if you intend on deleting all items, what about VIPs? Are you going to reset them all as they are made up of people's items? And the wilds, the same applies to them.

Prices fluctuate with the economy. You've witnessed this yourself. As for everything, you'll see when the time comes, nothing is set in stone, but its slowly being carved.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: synderfin on July 21, 2014, 05:42:59 am
Prices fluctuate with the economy. You've witnessed this yourself. As for everything, you'll see when the time comes, nothing is set in stone, but its slowly being carved.
Didn't think about that, ignore my rant for now.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 21, 2014, 08:59:57 am
I want to give my opinion; money and items, to me are expendable, i can always grind those easily back. The only thin i'd like to keep would be the well earned mcmmo levels. A lot of hard time grinding during my time to get high levels. Also, having mcmmo stats remaining the same. It makes it easy for people who are coming back from a "quit/leave" to earn a bit of money and get items without being a completely new person. Which, in my opinion, would give me less reason to come back after i left. But you'll have the diehard fans of the server who'll keep playing no matter what.
 :hattip:
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: ryancpexpert on July 21, 2014, 10:04:23 am
I feel personally mcmmo stats should remain. People have trained really hard to get them as high as they are and it really just wouldn't be fair to wipe the stats with all the training they have done.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 21, 2014, 10:49:00 am
I feel personally mcmmo stats should remain. People have trained really hard to get them as high as they are and it really just wouldn't be fair to wipe the stats with all the training they have done.
I agree. You can wipe everything, honestly, that would be actually the best idea, only if you exclude wiping the mcstats. Stripping the server of what broke it's economy is obviously a must. But mcmmo didn't have the highest impact on why diamonds went for so cheap.
#KeepMcstats2014
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 21, 2014, 11:05:11 am
I agree. You can wipe everything, honestly, that would be actually the best idea, only if you exclude wiping the mcstats. Stripping the server of what broke it's economy is obviously a must. But mcmmo didn't have the highest impact on why diamonds went for so cheap.#KeepMcstats2014

Okay so this is just my reasoning for getting rid of mcstats. When we have these new maps, we plan on advertising the server a lot. Meaning we will have newer players. If we have 1000-leveled-gym leaders in every stat, it wouldn't be too fair. We can't just think about all those 1000 levels you grinded for a while, we need to think in the interest of the server. This would also give those people when mcmmo was first introduced, to the newer players a better chance to have the same stats.




#BegoneMcstats2014
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Lucasrx on July 21, 2014, 11:09:11 am
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftruegif.com%2Fpictures%2Fgif%2F4568.gif&hash=61ee27ef5a483616db5ffd11fe862396)


#CompromiseMcstats2014
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 21, 2014, 11:12:54 am
([url]https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmemecrunch.com%2Fmeme%2F3GJG6%2Fi-just-came-here-to-read-the-comments%2Fimage.png%3Fw%3D420%26amp%3Bc%3D1&hash=ecb866fe9841a688256b84ebde7702ac[/url])



Of course you did. But no gif?
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 21, 2014, 11:15:17 am
Here's a long shot suggestion. On the pixelmon server, each gym is regulated by the level of the pokemon in your party correct? (Forgive me if i'm wrong, i've never really played on there.) Since we are getting 5 new regions can we not scale each region by difficulty? I.E being only able to challenge johto gyms, if you have 4 kanto badges. I did here talk about when the new maps come, you will be able to start in any region and finish in any region, so that may make my suggestion total bulls***. Anyways, some of the veteran players might come back and add their beloved spice back to the server if you kept their stats the same. Or perhaps, if had xxxx amount in combat stats, you are only eligible for yyyy gym, that could possibly be a compromise.


#CompromiseMcstats2014


Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: kjdavitt on July 21, 2014, 01:01:53 pm
I wonder, why do people want items to get wiped in the first place. After couple days or maybe in one day people would be back in diamond armor while new people are still joining.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 21, 2014, 01:19:54 pm
I feel personally mcmmo stats should remain. People have trained really hard to get them as high as they are and it really just wouldn't be fair to wipe the stats with all the training they have done.

I feel personally player balances should remain. People have worked really hard to get them as high as they are and it really just wouldn't be fair to wipe their money with all the work they have done.

I feel personally player inventories should remain. People have worked sorta hard to get them as full and prepared as they are and it really just wouldn't be fair to wipe the items with all the work and saving they have done.

As you can see, using time spent as an argument nullifies any reset of anything. Everyone spent time accumulating something, therefore it is valuable to them. Let's stop thinking about the time an individual spent gathering some resource, and think instead about what effect that resource will have in gameplay if it starts out with practically no value because it isn't even rare.

Tene, the two quotes were demonstrating that the poll probably doesn't mean nothing.

Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: SnowBreak on July 21, 2014, 04:29:29 pm

Okay so this is just my reasoning for getting rid of mcstats. When we have these new maps, we plan on advertising the server a lot. Meaning we will have newer players. If we have 1000-leveled-gym leaders in every stat, it wouldn't be too fair. We can't just think about all those 1000 levels you grinded for a while, we need to think in the interest of the server. This would also give those people when mcmmo was first introduced, to the newer players a better chance to have the same stats.




#BegoneMcstats2014

Actually, with my AxeNinjaPvP account, I was able to beat all the gyms with under 250 in each stat  ;)
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 21, 2014, 05:14:42 pm
As you can see, using time spent as an argument nullifies any reset of anything. Everyone spent time accumulating something, therefore it is valuable to them. Let's stop thinking about the time an individual spent gathering some resource, and think instead about what effect that resource will have in gameplay if it starts out with practically no value because it isn't even rare.

Tene, the two quotes were demonstrating that the poll probably doesn't mean nothing.



Double negative confused me.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 21, 2014, 06:14:04 pm
I wonder, why do people want items to get wiped in the first place. After couple days or maybe in one day people would be back in diamond armor while new people are still joining.
Then you just proved that we should get rid of items. It wont matter anyways.


And whatever the admins do they do.


/undiscuss (for me)
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: b_rad1243 on July 23, 2014, 01:56:55 am
In all honesty i worked hard for my stats but getting them reset would be a challenge. Part of the fact you dont want your stats wiped is youre too lazy to redo them all. It isnt fun anymore fighting against someone who stat whored like jimmy or r15 or lucas (no offense) its just not fun. The pokemon server doesnt even follow its own theme. Nothing is a challenge at all. Pokemon is about challenges and we cant even follow that. Its silly. Big deal your stats get wiped. Redo them. just like in super smash bros. Once youre in the campaign and you die you have to restart all over. So restart all over and have fun. No ones having fun at all atleast im not. Gym battles are so op we have people with over 1k stats each mode. How the heck is a brand new player even supposed to challenge a gym and beat the leader. It took me almost three months to get to where my stats are now! No wonder we never have any new players! So just think about it. Do you want the same old people playing every day or have new players and make new friends and start having fun? Think deeply. They're stats if it was so easy to get them in the first place then get them again. spend a whole 24 hours of training who cares. Hopefully there will be a cap on the stats also.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 23, 2014, 10:21:18 am
In all honesty i worked hard for my stats but getting them reset would be a challenge. Part of the fact you dont want your stats wiped is youre too lazy to redo them all. It isnt fun anymore fighting against someone who stat whored like jimmy or r15 or lucas (no offense) its just not fun. The pokemon server doesnt even follow its own theme. Nothing is a challenge at all. Pokemon is about challenges and we cant even follow that. Its silly. Big deal your stats get wiped. Redo them. just like in super smash bros. Once youre in the campaign and you die you have to restart all over. So restart all over and have fun. No ones having fun at all atleast im not. Gym battles are so op we have people with over 1k stats each mode. How the heck is a brand new player even supposed to challenge a gym and beat the leader. It took me almost three months to get to where my stats are now! No wonder we never have any new players! So just think about it. Do you want the same old people playing every day or have new players and make new friends and start having fun? Think deeply. They're stats if it was so easy to get them in the first place then get them again. spend a whole 24 hours of training who cares. Hopefully there will be a cap on the stats also.
What is stopping people from stat-whoring again? Next to no time, the same people who want to keep it, will have a great resolve to get back to where they stand. The problem comes back, the stat grinders too. Let the stat grinders keep their stats, but choke them down to specific regions/gyms. If the admins want to make the server, with all 5 maps, make it so you have to go; kanto->johto->hoenn->sinnoh->unova, then why dont we only allow the stat grinders to only apply for unova and sinnoh? But, i may be wrong, the admins might just say, 'Start anywhere, finish anywhere.' That being said, people who have grind their stats in the past, will most likely do it again. The way to stop them from doing it again? Let them keep it, and reduce their options of leading beginner gyms. I.e Viridian (since it is usually the first one people walk to.)


Tl;dr: Let grinders keep their stats but limit the options they have when applying to "beginner" gyms.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: donutboy10 on July 23, 2014, 12:25:05 pm
Reset the stats. And you want to know how to stop the stat whoring? Put a cap. Or even better, let people train as much as they want, hell train every minute of everyday, and then have routine stat wipes every 2-3 months. Ax is right in that people will still stat whore, which is why we need it limited. Limiting to regions is not the only way, nor is it a good one if the Admins intend to give freedom to start anywhere. It's a PvP server, not a "train all your stats until you have the highest mcmmo level on it" server, your PvP skill should be more important to you than stats you've leveled to where no one can challenge you.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Lucasrx on July 23, 2014, 01:28:25 pm
Lol.. I had to say something, In the end our choice between having anything staying or not, really doesn't matter. It's the admins choice to choose alright lets keep them or alright lets get rid of them and set new rules. Let's just stop arguing about this and let the admins decide.   
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 23, 2014, 02:53:35 pm
Lol.. I had to say something, In the end our choice between having anything staying or not, really doesn't matter. It's the admins choice to choose alright lets keep them or alright lets get rid of them and set new rules. Let's just stop arguing about this and let the admins decide.   
Me personally, I am not trying to tell the admins what to do, or not to do. I'm giving my opinion, and everyone else is giving theirs. The only reason we do this is so the admins know what we think. If we were to let the admins decide by themselves, what was the point of this thread?


Putting a cap on certain skills, to me, would make the having good stats, a stale topic. That also means there is no point in making mctop in a certain skill. Without high skills, how is anyone going to be remembered as the guy who had the highest axes, swords, unarmed  etc.?


Resetting the stats is a temporary solution to a problem that will reoccur.
Limiting the skill cap will make hardcore pvp'ers lose interest in getting mctop.


There is no true balance when it comes to this. There are people for and against this. The only way the admins are going to make everyone happy, is if they compromise to the fullest extent of their power.


If don't give stat grinders, an incentive to grind, they won't grind anymore. Their incentive to keep grinding, is the reset stats.


Donut, one more thing, im not to sure there is 'skill' in clicking your left/right mouse button, and moving your mouse a few times. But i do see your level cap coming into great use. It would make the elite battles equal, and some gym battles equal. I like where you're going with that thought, but if we are talking about pure pvp, as in outside of gyms and elite battles. I don't think this would work in it's entirety.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 23, 2014, 04:14:54 pm
Lol.. I had to say something, In the end our choice between having anything staying or not, really doesn't matter. It's the admins choice to choose alright lets keep them or alright lets get rid of them and set new rules. Let's just stop arguing about this and let the admins decide.   
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: b_rad1243 on July 24, 2014, 01:46:16 am
It isnt fun anymore. Im not having fun. New people arent having fun. We need something to spark the server. Mcmmo should be reset and have caps on them. Why should a new person get their 75 kills and then get destroyed because their first set of armor was taken by some jerk with 1.5k axes. Like i said all i see are the same people playing every day. We were all having fun when we had the partys going and battling each other. It was a challenge. The only way we will get new players is if we reset the stats or just be dumb and lets give them all a 1k stat boost for each stat plus a two sets of prot 4 armor 2 stacks of diamond blocks also with that  Arceus  apples and we can forget the last thing free enchants for 1 week. Come on now. Think of it as something new. If you guys dont like it then just complain about it or leave the server. Either one
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 24, 2014, 04:34:04 am
Why should a new person get their 75 kills and then get destroyed because their first set of armor was taken by some jerk with 1.5k axes.
This will happen again, it is inevitable. Capping our skills will only make us closer to staying as the new guy. Is it so wrong to want to be someone with insane stats, to be feared and known for? Sure, stat resets are ok. Wipe the money, fine, we can earn it back. But hopefully, the ecomnomy doesn't fall as hard as last time. Wipe our items, im sure we can store other stuff in vip rooms, to my knowledge. Stats, you know what, sure wipe the stats, but don't cap the stats, that ruins the fun of being on mc top. Complete quality and balance is unattainable. You can get close to it, but you'll never fully attain it. As i have said before. Compromise this situation to get the fairness of both sides. That would reduce the amount of people that dislike one choice made by the admins.


tl;dr please compromise
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 24, 2014, 06:18:14 am
What about capping certain stats, ones that get stupidly strong past a certain point? Axes, for one. Unarmed stops gaining power at 1k, no need to cap that. Swords, 1. no one uses them seriously, 2. they don't gain power with more levels. no need to cap it.

I could go on, but why not just put a level cap on the skills that need one? Is that compromise enough?
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: AxZeroCrypt on July 24, 2014, 08:56:41 am
What about capping certain stats, ones that get stupidly strong past a certain point? Axes, for one. Unarmed stops gaining power at 1k, no need to cap that. Swords, 1. no one uses them seriously, 2. they don't gain power with more levels. no need to cap it.

I could go on, but why not just put a level cap on the skills that need one? Is that compromise enough?
That's a great compromise in my opinion, since axes do get more op the longer you level them. I guess it's up to the admins to decide where they draw the line on axes. I'm all for this change then.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Lucasrx on July 24, 2014, 09:27:16 am
New people arent having fun.


I never heard a new person complain about the mcmmo. :c
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 24, 2014, 12:02:08 pm

I never heard a new person complain about the mcmmo. :c

I have lol
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: r1579 on July 25, 2014, 05:07:37 pm
I finally found someone who was/is an admin that agrees with my choice to cut axes down a few pegs. no matter what happens, there is always people that are going to get angry with the decision. personally, I say keep the stats, but limit them, so massive stat grinders (like me) don't end up being the slayer of all players on the server. the main reason I grinded up my axes so high was because me and Jimmyziga wanted an axe training race. there will still be the drive to be mctop and rulers of a certain stat, just there is a limit so no player is op.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 25, 2014, 06:16:49 pm
I just can't handle not discussing anymore. /discuss :P


Money:
Our economy is already messed up enough. Perhaps we can start a new one and not have too much inflation. Get rid of money.


Items:
Doesn't really matter, because people have enough diamonds to last them a life time. They can get back their valuables easily. And I heard VIPs stay. So this doesn't even really matter.


Mcmmo:
Limiting is okay in my book. I say make it so each stat at around 500-1000 stop growing. (Combat skills at 500, all others 1000) Something like that. Or even make it so Kanto/Johto gym leaders can have mcmmo levels from 100-200, Hoenn from 200-300, Sinnoh from 300-400, and Unova capping out.
But erasing stats are still okay in my book. Yes people work for their stats, but erasing them might help the server grow. (BTW, this stuff in underline is only for if we don't do gym caps.


So money is okay to erase
Items seems like they won't, but I have no problem with them being erased
Mcmmo is okay to erase if we don't have gym caps
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: SnowBreak on July 25, 2014, 07:09:25 pm
I'm fine with money being removed as long as I can pre-buy a new map house. I worked hard for 100k to buy a nice house, maybe even a skyscraper if they're being sold. Heck, pikachupupu even donated for Jimmyziga so that he could get 100k for a new map house.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: notrigby on July 25, 2014, 07:43:43 pm
To contribute like I do every so often because why not:


1) You're polling people who are already established. It's never going to go into favor of what the new players would want. You're polling the 1/2 of the server that WOULD lose stuff.


2) Monthly resets are a blessing, but I don't know how that would work out the with the gym system and such. Or if that's even maintained anymore.


3) In addition to #1: The only way you're going to have to results is take the risk of doing it. I know for a fact that back when I was an admin this was something we discussed internally. It's going to be impossible to get the feel of it would make it easier on newer players through a poll alone.


Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Sweaty on July 25, 2014, 08:21:33 pm
Not too far off from the topic, but please get rid of penalty and bring back 10 hearts :c. 1ce said we use 2x health for some berries, but they are rarely used. And i don't know why penalty is there :/
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 25, 2014, 09:28:05 pm
I'm fine with money being removed as long as I can pre-buy a new map house. I worked hard for 100k to buy a nice house, maybe even a skyscraper if they're being sold. Heck, pikachupupu even donated for Jimmyziga so that he could get 100k for a new map house.

How would you 'pre-buy' a new house if money were being removed?
If pika donated for jimmy, thats pika's issue.

To contribute like I do every so often because why not:


1) You're polling people who are already established. It's never going to go into favor of what the new players would want. You're polling the 1/2 of the server that WOULD lose stuff.
Agreed

2) Monthly resets are a blessing, but I don't know how that would work out the with the gym system and such. Or if that's even maintained anymore.
I wondered about this myself

3) In addition to #1: The only way you're going to have to results is take the risk of doing it. I know for a fact that back when I was an admin this was something we discussed internally. It's going to be impossible to get the feel of it would make it easier on newer players through a poll alone.
I recall some of the results lol



Not too far off from the topic, but please get rid of penalty and bring back 10 hearts :c. 1ce said we use 2x health for some berries, but they are rarely used. And i don't know why penalty is there :/

I did invite you to test the new berries, but you left. Penalty is a way to try fix the broken economy, in a similar way to pokemon. Lost a battle, lose money, and it goes to the winner, just like battles in pokemon.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: r1579 on July 25, 2014, 09:46:54 pm
this is the pressing issue of everything.

1. we decide to restart the entire server. all stats, all money, all items. while this may newer players feel welcome and provide more stimulation within the server, many people who worked for there stats will become angry to have lost all that work. only the most dedicated players will stay to rebuild what they lost which may cause a massive drop in the player count.

2. we decide to transfer everything or only a select few things. newer players will have a tougher time in dealing with veteran players. while the veteran players are happy newer players will have to be either like stng and be extremely good at pvp, or some they will have to grind forever just to make it so they can match the others, weather or not there is a cap or limitation on mcstats.

The main focus of all this is, do we want to appeal to the newer generation of gamers, or do we want to preserve the veteran players? no choice is without it's share of problems and hatred but it's up to the admins to make the best choices on this matter.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: TAlegends on July 25, 2014, 10:07:47 pm
this is the pressing issue of everything.

1. we decide to restart the entire server. all stats, all money, all items. while this may newer players feel welcome and provide more stimulation within the server, many people who worked for there stats will become angry to have lost all that work. only the most dedicated players will stay to rebuild what they lost which may cause a massive drop in the player count.

2. we decide to transfer everything or only a select few things. newer players will have a tougher time in dealing with veteran players. while the veteran players are happy newer players will have to be either like stng and be extremely good at pvp, or some they will have to grind forever just to make it so they can match the others, weather or not there is a cap or limitation on mcstats.

The main focus of all this is, do we want to appeal to the newer generation of gamers, or do we want to preserve the veteran players? no choice is without it's share of problems and hatred but it's up to the admins to make the best choices on this matter.

Or we do what 1ce said and we max the OP stats like Axes. making sure veteran players are not as angry about this and will prob stay + new people will get the chanse off picking up with us easyer even though they will still need to do some grinding but less.
(If they want a house that costs them around +/- 6k and a mob kill gives them 9 dollar each that means 666,6... kills I think that should give you a high enough lvl not to get killed instant)
I think this is a good idea.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 25, 2014, 10:55:32 pm

3) In addition to #1: The only way you're going to have to results is take the risk of doing it. I know for a fact that back when I was an admin this was something we discussed internally. It's going to be impossible to get the feel of it would make it easier on newer players through a poll alone.
We've never had an admin named notrigby... Who is this creature  :O_o:


Not too far off from the topic, but please get rid of penalty and bring back 10 hearts :c. 1ce said we use 2x health for some berries, but they are rarely used. And i don't know why penalty is there :/

I think the fix to this involves making berries more usedul. Right now they just seem like fancy collectors items, they don't give enough of a bonus to really contribute to a fight and make them valuable.
As for the penalty, tene addressed that.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: notrigby on July 25, 2014, 11:22:46 pm
We've never had an admin named notrigby... Who is this creature  :O_o:


Dammit. Don't make me create the account notnotrigby.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: ArchieSalt on July 26, 2014, 08:39:46 am
I'm all for a reset, right now there's not a lot for me to do because I have all the money, items and stats I would ever want. I'm sure there are others in a similar boat, whether they want to sit on their throne of wealth and do nothing for the rest of their time on the server is a different question.

In all honesty, I don't think I would ever have given this server a chance if I hadn't joined early in it's lifecycle when it was still possible to catch up in terms of money, items and stats etc. Everybody was relatively new, you'd make new friends everyday because people actually joined and stuck around, it was a lot more fun and fulfilling than it is now where the rich win and the poor lose.

I could pay my way to the top of the Pokemon League literally by buying the best weapons, armour and enough golden apples to last me my entire life, skill would play little to no part.

This isn't fun, it's not fulfilling because you're hardly putting in the effort. We did that ages ago and now we're sitting on our stuff because it's easier than doing something productive.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Honedge on July 26, 2014, 02:06:30 pm
Reset plox
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 26, 2014, 08:53:30 pm
For reset:
Tymac
B_rad
Archie
Hone


Reset but keep mcmmo
AxZero
Ryancp


Reset mcmmo
Donutboy


Reset after houses are bought
Shark
Camm


Don't reset anything
...
...



Now this is based on posts, posts that are definitive, not sorta committed to some idea.
So unless some Don't-reset-anything people start to speak up, I'm tempted to ignore that poll up there completely. All the 'reset' votes are lower than the 'keep' votes for all 3 categories and I call bullshit on the voters who aren't saying why they want to keep them.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: GeoWhiz on July 26, 2014, 09:35:26 pm
For reset:
Tymac
B_rad
Archie
Hone


Reset but keep mcmmo
AxZero
Ryancp


Reset mcmmo
Donutboy


Reset after houses are bought
Shark
Camm


Don't reset anything
...
...



Now this is based on posts, posts that are definitive, not sorta committed to some idea.
So unless some Don't-reset-anything people start to speak up, I'm tempted to ignore that poll up there completely. All the 'reset' votes are lower than the 'keep' votes for all 3 categories and I call bullshit on the voters who aren't saying why they want to keep them.
I vote for the reset. The people who voted with me already said my POV. :P
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: donutboy10 on July 26, 2014, 09:39:32 pm
I'm for a full reset, not just mcmmo. I made a post about mcmmo because that was what most of the controversy was about. I'm hesitant towards money, but I'm leaning towards resetting it as well as items and mcmmo.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Okieskinny on July 26, 2014, 09:51:29 pm
I vote for the reset. The people who voted with me already said my POV. :P
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 27, 2014, 08:15:50 am
Point being, the 'keep' voters are beating the 'reset' voters, in spite of not posting anything at all for their cause.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Honedge on July 27, 2014, 09:27:46 am
Point being, the 'keep' voters are beating the 'reset' voters, in spite of not posting anything at all for their cause.
How do we know if people made alt accounts to vote again?

To those who are saying they worked hard for their stats, you knew your stats will be gone someday.  For example, life will call.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: stuffjunk on July 27, 2014, 05:25:56 pm
yes but when life calls it won't matter but until then...
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: stuffjunk on July 27, 2014, 05:33:46 pm
i am on the side of Keep VIP's and stats. now that i have been on the server for nearing 2 years and spent hours upon hours training and collecting a good amount of items it would greatly disipoint me if all i had work for almost 2 years to get was just deleted. it would be bad also to delete everyones stuff now to because of the impending no more donator ranks update being shoved down our throats by mojang so it would be hard to regain all the stuff we lost.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: stuffjunk on July 27, 2014, 05:36:25 pm
There are some of us who aren't looking for a challenge, people who are already at a high place and are perfectly happy where they are like me.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Tenebrae on July 27, 2014, 06:01:53 pm
i am on the side of Keep VIP's and stats. now that i have been on the server for nearing 2 years and spent hours upon hours training and collecting a good amount of items it would greatly disipoint me if all i had work for almost 2 years to get was just deleted. it would be bad also to delete everyones stuff now to because of the impending no more donator ranks update being shoved down our throats by mojang so it would be hard to regain all the stuff we lost.

Implying we've ever given items for money.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 27, 2014, 06:20:07 pm
Now this is based on posts, posts that are definitive, not sorta committed to some idea. So unless some Don't-reset-anything people start to speak up, I'm tempted to ignore that poll up there completely. All the 'reset' votes are lower than the 'keep' votes for all 3 categories and I call bullshit on the voters who aren't saying why they want to keep them.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: TAlegends on July 27, 2014, 07:30:17 pm
I voted on keeping everything in the poll...
Even though I do think stuff should be cut down ... just not completely.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: 1cec0ld on July 27, 2014, 07:43:38 pm
Thank you stuffjunk and TA for speaking up then.


Implying we've ever given items for money.

I remember when we sold mcmmo levels for dollars :D good times.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Lucasrx on July 27, 2014, 08:56:47 pm
Reset, But keep Stats.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: kjdavitt on July 27, 2014, 10:27:53 pm
I don't really mind about money being reset, but I am on the side of keeping everything.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: GeoWhiz on July 30, 2014, 06:54:35 pm
Yeah. I just feel newer players would have a hard time against someone with 1000 axes 1000 unarmed and 1000 archery while trying to get a gym badge

Okay so this is just my reasoning for getting rid of mcstats. When we have these new maps, we plan on advertising the server a lot. Meaning we will have newer players. If we have 1000-leveled-gym leaders in every stat, it wouldn't be too fair. We can't just think about all those 1000 levels you grinded for a while, we need to think in the interest of the server. This would also give those people when mcmmo was first introduced, to the newer players a better chance to have the same stats.




#BegoneMcstats2014
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: tymac on July 30, 2014, 06:59:53 pm

?
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Gavi on August 01, 2014, 01:27:24 am
Fucking get rid of the mcstats
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: ArchieSalt on August 01, 2014, 01:39:45 pm
Get rid of everything.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: guilliamguilliam on August 26, 2014, 08:46:15 am
keep the VIP rooms because some people donated for that and get rid of the money and mcmmo
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: Honedge on August 26, 2014, 09:29:30 am
keep the VIP rooms because some people donated for that and get rid of the money and mcmmo
Just confused, do you mean just keep the vip rooms or keep the items within it?
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: jibbyfunk on August 26, 2014, 10:25:26 am
I originally voted to keep everything, but my mind has changed and I now believe everything should be reset. Everything. Except ranks.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: rockittt on October 11, 2014, 11:07:50 am
My thoughts about this....

Keep mc mmo stats, I dont mind about everything else, though it would suck to have all my riches taken away it would resolve a few issues with the server...

But then again it is the mcmmo skills such as excavation, mining and a few other skills which allow for the quick aquiring of diamonds, all id need is a wooden shovel and I could probs get a diamond or two in less than 30 seconds.

Ive worked hard to get my mcmmo stats the way they are, now im not the most powerful player on the server... actually I think id be considered mid range, but Ive pretty much retired from training which is why I wanted to settle down and run a gym for the rest of my time playing the server, which will probs go on untill 1 cec OLD flips the switch off for the server.

I would however like to keep my vip room,minus the items in the chests cus it took a while for me to design build and get my machines to work which im still proud of!
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: SnowBreak on October 11, 2014, 01:49:33 pm
Delete everything besides ranks. A fresh start would be fun, and it would be fun for new players as well (If they don't spam "wher r da pokemans.") But, I would still like to "preorder" a house in the new map.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: MrHeartGold on October 11, 2014, 02:19:38 pm
If them MCmmo is reset then everyone should be scared of Limopop...
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: rockittt on October 11, 2014, 02:56:02 pm
lol limopop is nothing... Ive seen him in action hes just a normee!
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: SnowBreak on October 11, 2014, 04:35:52 pm
How dare you speak against the limopop.
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: guilliamguilliam on October 11, 2014, 06:47:09 pm
Well If mcmmo has been reset ervry one Will fear me and my gang!
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: rockittt on October 12, 2014, 05:00:06 am
Well If mcmmo has been reset ervry one Will fear me and my gang!
...riveting...
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: MrHeartGold on October 12, 2014, 05:58:29 am
GUI the only thing people will be scared of is your spelling... Ervry one will be scared of that :haha:
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: guilliamguilliam on October 12, 2014, 06:18:42 am
Yeah. And don't forget ma potions
Title: Re: Reset Poll
Post by: hobo4chompy on November 05, 2014, 03:09:55 pm
But do not fear citizens of PokeServer, For the esteemed Hobo 4 chompy has gathered an army of righcheous Hobos / Players to counter attack GUI's Gang of Hoodlems.


So rest soundly citizens, for when the battle is taking place in your neighbourhood. you know who to call  :hattip: [size=78%] [/size]