Pokemon Server Archive
PvP Server => Ban/Punishment-Related => Topic started by: Bespinben on June 17, 2012, 03:39:39 am
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Being a dumb*** was indeed a humbling experience. Lacking all console commands and unable to use signs, I had to learn to survive off of the labors of my hand, fishing every day just to survive.
However, that wasn't enough to penetrate my corrupted interior. Those who crossed my path along Victory Road as I sat upon my fishing post at Viridian City pond, I killed, mercilessly. Oh, how my heart longs to return the many stone swords and picks that I had stolen from those who walked into a Pvp zone, but alas, they are gone. This was not the worst of my actions, no, not at all. For shame, even in my meager state, I still had such nerve, such audacity, such stiff-neckedness, as to PUSH those standing peacefully at spawn! How could I have rationalized such actions under the faulty belief that no harm could come upon my victims in the 5.014 minutes which I had to push them into the waterfall at spawn, and take no damage because of being in a no damage zone? Oh, how wrongly I believed this.
Then this day, I committed the unspeakable. I pushed... *oh goodness, why, why*... I pushed -- the beloved MIOSIO off the top of Ash's house down to the cold, cruel Earth. The pains she felt, they must have been many, so many that I couldn't possibly begin to understand, for how could one as lowly as I understand the pains of one in Arceus mode who fell from a 15-foot tall building in a no damage zone?
Only upon having received the ultimate price of banishment for such atrocities have I now seen the wickedness of my ways. I have nothing now, nothing to offer, but my complete submission and apology. Will you allow me to walk again amongst you? This is all I ask.
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tl;dr.
EDIT: Lol I was jking I did read it. Awesome bro, loads of sarcasm and I :haha: :haha: :haha: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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I read it, and lol'd
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I like it.
Quite a bit of sarcasm in it, but liked it.
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HAHA, Very well written Bespin, i hope you get unbanned, im one of very few people who enjoy your trolling
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The audacity this pompous player has to make a thread in such a sarcastic and disrespectful fashion is atrocious. See? Other people can use big words too you know.
Admins, in reviewing this Bespin's status on the server, ask yourself this...
Would you want a player with such a negative attitude to turn off potential new players, and potential new DONATORS, by harassing and trolling, and showing a poor example of how to act towards admins?
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I don't think this was the sincerest apology. Half of it was sarcasm. Damnit Bespin, why can't one time in your life be apologetic.
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The audacity this pompous player has to make a thread in such a sarcastic and disrespectful fashion is atrocious. See? Other people can use big words too you know.
Admins, in reviewing this Bespin's status on the server, ask yourself this...
Would you want a player with such a negative attitude to turn off potential new players, and potential new DONATORS, by harassing and trolling, and showing a poor example of how to act towards admins?
Have you ever been on a server where there isnt someone like this? Ive encountered people on several different servers who do much worse things than Bespin and after complaining continuously, nothing was done, the fact is that there will always be people like bespin.
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For a player left off with so many warnings, I seriously didn't expect Ben to act like THIS when he finally was banned and decided to make an appeal, I mean this is insulting about 25% of the server (INCLUDING AN ADMIN). Ugh... I won't even try to go into detail :-[
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Before I was fine with bes and I probably would've lobbied for him to be unbanned if someone proposed it. But now there's no way in hell I'm letting you back. I will do everything in my power to keep you off the server. You want to be a smart ass? Fine, be one. I'm lobbying also to get you banned from the forums ASAP. Isn't it fun to be an asshole? I love it.
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Bes, I think adambigboy took over your position as the server troll. Though he can't kill some of us, he still makes the new players on the server rage.
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Bes, I think adambigboy took over your position as the server troll. Though he can't kill some of us, he still makes the new players on the server rage.
Yeah, it still annoys me how he picks on newer players... :(
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REALLY!? You guys are all just idiots. I mean really? What in the world can Ben even DO??? He has access to /spawn. If you IDIOTS get killed by him...its your fault. To be completely honest I am disgusted by the harsh and irrational decisions made recently by a good chunk of the admin team. This includes Mio, Zombie, and now (sadly) Paradox. I have seen more complaints about the first two people here is the last few weeks than Ben. But because of their position, nothing is done about it. I mean think about it. If all you could do is wander around Kanto and fish to even survive what would you do? Heck I was locked in Unova for how long and all I could think about was trying to kill someone. If you dont want to die DONT GO INTO PVP AREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the admins. Ive been thinking about this for a while and I have decidied to make a stand. I move to have both Mio and Zombie moved out of OP and down to Mod positions. I feel that much of the admin team has lost track of their true point in being an admin (which is to HELP people). I feel that the stress of the admin position and the lack of drive to do good has cause more problems than is worth dealing with and they need some time to have fun on the server. As a side note to this I move the Anniiee be moved up to Admin position to take up some of the slack. She has been more than helpful to others and I feel it is much deserved (if she desires it). Now there are those who will disagree with my claims but know that this comes from seeing the may complaints and unreturned pleas for help given from a large section of our new server members.
I also move to have the wilds closed and a new world opened. In this world I suggest there to be a small town like area where people ( for a SMALL fee) can purchase buildings in which to buy and sell items. The rest of this world will of course be pvp and will not follow the rules of no pushing, only killing someone 6 times and such. And in this world there can be the mining and pvp we all love.
Now frankly I am just pissed at you all for getting to this point. Ben, lay off. Others, just ignore Ben and go about ur business. Admins, please consider my proposals and keep in mind why this server is still running. There have been close to 20,000 people that have logged onto this server. Many have not stayed for one reason or another but the people who have stayed have stayed because they saw something that they figured they would enjoy. If people leave this server there will always be more to replace them, but I cannot stress enough the need for those players who have been on for a long time. Those people are the ones who have found a love for this server and have done all they can to enjoy their time here. For any of us to dissrespect one another is just beyond wrong and must come to an end. If we just keep getting eachother mad, the only thing the admins can do to shut up your bickering is to ban said player. But if every time someone made me mad and I bugged the admins til they banned them, the admins would be pissed, the players would be pissed, and I could no longer have fun on this server. Everyone just needs to grow up, move on, and learn from their mistakes.
This is an amazing server. I would hate to see it die because one person made you mad. Please dont let this server die. :eyes:
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War, I think you make valid points but bes is makin a mockery of our ban. It's like someone making a person committing many crimes then the judge, being pitiful, putting him on probation. And what does he do?! Rather than be nice and lay low he goes out of his way his to do little things to annoy people. Are they little? Yes. Would I care if they were someone else? No. But he is disrespecting The admin team as a whole. And now he's making a mockery of our ban appeal system by poking fun of it by purposely making a shit appeal for no reason. I expect more out of a person. This goes beyond respect and obviously shows that he will never change.
When you were locked in another world you had the right to be mad. But you did te right thing. You did good. And if you quit the server, that's more honorable than being an ass to everyone. You did everything right war and I respect you so much more for that war. But bes has made one too many mistakes and this was the final straw.
Sorry for any grammatical/spelling mistakes, im typing this on my phone.
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Ok. To be fare I was the one that convinced ben to do the sarcasm response. I figured the subject needed a little fun to break all the tension but I see it did not and I am sorry. Though he did an amazing job at it :roll: . And Para I do see your point as to the reason behind the ban. It makes sense. So with ur permission Id like to lock him in Unova for a while to build to repay for his crimes
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Give me one reason. We've given him more than enough chances to redeem himself and he never did. I try to be as merciful as I can but he's hopeless.unless you can prove time that he deserves it, I refuse to allow him to take another step on this server. It would be a mockery of my admin abilities to vote anythingin favor of this user because his sole purpose is to be an ass.
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It is my fault I have escalated these annoyances to this point. Earlier, I felt wronged by for what I believed was an unjust ban and felt the need to bring these supposed wrongs to light (via satire), but I had failed all along to see that the problem was myself. I kept blaming all my problems on others without seeing my own contribution.
I in no way deserve to be let back after my mockery, but it would be a great joy to continue working on Unova. Please, consider this.
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And the point isn't that Bes pushed "Mio" or that Mio got "hurt". The point is that Bes "afk pushed" which is why he was made dumbass for so long. Also I think Bes killing people who come along his path isn't too much of a deal, there's always someone who attacks people in PvP zones.
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Course it wont mean much but he is the only reason I am even on the server. All the work dont in Unova would not be where it is today without him. One thing I must say is that your choice in punishments for him has been most unfair. Because of the way you have crippled his abilities to do anything all he CAN do is bug people. I mean. Challenging gyms is hard/impposible and all there is to do is try and see what you can do given the limits of your punishment. I mean the hole time I was in Unova most of my time was spent trying to get out or take advantage of the situation. There wasnt much but when faced with a punishment like that that is the default reaction. See unlike many other players this is the only server me and Ben have ever been on. So where as some can go elsewhere and cool down, all we can do is try to have fun with the limits placed upon us.
But if your mind is made up there will be little I can do to change it. Do what you feel is right and I will do what I can.
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No, I'm willing to change my stance, it's just very difficult with the ridiculous amount of evidence against him. So I asked for one point to prove me point and I'll stick with that. You've given me one point so far: "He has nothing else to but bother people because he has no permissions". Even though that's a horrible excuse, I'll counter it!: Archie. He has pretty much the same punishment and is not getting in this situation, is he now.
Give me a valid excuse why he should stay. Don't ask for sympathy. Don't ask for forgiveness. You've passed that line. I need cold hard proof why you benefit the server more than you break it.
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REALLY!? You guys are all just idiots. I mean really? What in the world can Ben even DO??? He has access to /spawn. If you IDIOTS get killed by him...its your fault. To be completely honest I am disgusted by the harsh and irrational decisions made recently by a good chunk of the admin team. This includes Mio, Zombie, and now (sadly) Paradox. I have seen more complaints about the first two people here is the last few weeks than Ben. But because of their position, nothing is done about it. I mean think about it. If all you could do is wander around Kanto and fish to even survive what would you do? Heck I was locked in Unova for how long and all I could think about was trying to kill someone. If you dont want to die DONT GO INTO PVP AREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the admins. Ive been thinking about this for a while and I have decidied to make a stand. I move to have both Mio and Zombie moved out of OP and down to Mod positions. I feel that much of the admin team has lost track of their true point in being an admin (which is to HELP people). I feel that the stress of the admin position and the lack of drive to do good has cause more problems than is worth dealing with and they need some time to have fun on the server. As a side note to this I move the Anniiee be moved up to Admin position to take up some of the slack. She has been more than helpful to others and I feel it is much deserved (if she desires it). Now there are those who will disagree with my claims but know that this comes from seeing the may complaints and unreturned pleas for help given from a large section of our new server members.
I also move to have the wilds closed and a new world opened. In this world I suggest there to be a small town like area where people ( for a SMALL fee) can purchase buildings in which to buy and sell items. The rest of this world will of course be pvp and will not follow the rules of no pushing, only killing someone 6 times and such. And in this world there can be the mining and pvp we all love.
Now frankly I am just pissed at you all for getting to this point. Ben, lay off. Others, just ignore Ben and go about ur business. Admins, please consider my proposals and keep in mind why this server is still running. There have been close to 20,000 people that have logged onto this server. Many have not stayed for one reason or another but the people who have stayed have stayed because they saw something that they figured they would enjoy. If people leave this server there will always be more to replace them, but I cannot stress enough the need for those players who have been on for a long time. Those people are the ones who have found a love for this server and have done all they can to enjoy their time here. For any of us to dissrespect one another is just beyond wrong and must come to an end. If we just keep getting eachother mad, the only thing the admins can do to shut up your bickering is to ban said player. But if every time someone made me mad and I bugged the admins til they banned them, the admins would be pissed, the players would be pissed, and I could no longer have fun on this server. Everyone just needs to grow up, move on, and learn from their mistakes.
This is an amazing server. I would hate to see it die because one person made you mad. Please dont let this server die. :eyes:
I don't understand, aren't you leaving for 2 years? Requesting all these changes for the admin staff, and the server? Why would you post insults to the admins and other players and try to fight the battle for the person if you won't even continue your travels with said person on this server. I'm with Paradox and Mio, and any other that find this level of disrespect appalling.
As to Archie's point earlier as well, as there will "always" be a jackass or troll on the server, that may be true, but by setting a reasonable example on one whom acted this way will help enforce that we diminish the amount of "Trolls" for everyone's enjoyment.
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Para he shouldn't have had to appeal. Remember?? To stop the afk pushing, they made it so you can't afk. Therefore, if you can't "afk push" he shouldn't have been banned. And he didn't do any harm in the first place.
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Give me a valid excuse why he should stay. Don't ask for sympathy. Don't ask for forgiveness. You've passed that line. I need cold hard proof why you benefit the server more than you break it.
he is the only reason I am even on the server. All the work dont in Unova would not be where it is today without him.
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And for the killing by viridian, if people pass him, he has to kill them, i mean, what is he going to do?? he can't be killed and lose all his days work, he has to survive. And if they don't act like they are going to kill him at first then kill him later, he still loses, so killing them keeps him alive, its like hes playing on hardcore mode.
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Para he shouldn't have had to appeal. Remember?? To stop the afk pushing, they made it so you can't afk. Therefore, if you can't "afk push" he shouldn't have been banned. And he didn't do any harm in the first place.
He's being disrespectful to the admin team. I ask you guys to follow that one rule and he can't.
Give me a valid excuse why he should stay. Don't ask for sympathy. Don't ask for forgiveness. You've passed that line. I need cold hard proof why you benefit the server more than you break it.
he is the only reason I am even on the server. All the work dont in Unova would not be where it is today without him.
Just because he gives credit to you for what he has done means nothing to me. It's like at the start of most books, there's a dedication page. He's dedicated to you but you do not deserve the credit nor the equal amount of respect for what he's done just because you inspired him. And I don't care about Unova. If you've done so much for only that, I'd happily lock you in Unova, take away your ability to do anything except break and build blocks (Including messages, talking, ect.) because the only thing it sounds like you've done is build.
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And to Warmonger's point about the first two people to post in here being complained about more, I disagree completely. There are more threads that have been created about Bespin than player in recent time. I regret erasing my thread I had before, which had a ridiculous amount of posts and support, and views.
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Give me a valid excuse why he should stay. Don't ask for sympathy. Don't ask for forgiveness. You've passed that line. I need cold hard proof why you benefit the server more than you break it.
he is the only reason I am even on the server. All the work dont in Unova would not be where it is today without him.
He is one of the smartest, and best pvpers on this server. Who should have gotten dumbass taken away awhile ago, and who shouldn't have to appeal in the first place. No one was hurt, just Him banned. So I think You need to look over this whole ban in the first place before you consider keeping him banned under false pretenses. And para it was a disrespect to him to keep him dumbass after it was suppose to be taken away. He didn't troll that whole time. Hix got dumbass taken away RIGHT when it was suppose to be taken away.
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And to Warmonger's point about the first two people to post in here being complained about more, I disagree completely. There are more threads that have been created about Bespin than player in recent time. I regret erasing my thread I had before, which had a ridiculous amount of posts and support, and views.
If you didn't delete that, 1ce posted how afk pushing wouldn't be able to happen because you can't go "afk". So why shouldn't people just afk at there houses? And there was NO HARM DONE!!! TO ANYONE!
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I don't care if he's smart or if he's good at pvp. His dumbass should have gotten taken away a while back, I agree, it is our faults and I am sorry for that. And if he had made a nice appeal, like MANY people have, then I would've been apologizing at this moment. But he gave me, personally, the middle finger by coming to our forums and making a mockery of everything. Like I said, I'm sorry for the fact that he didn't get dumbass taken away. But you do not handle yourself like this. NEVER.
You say to look into ban under false pretenses? Well, that was the point of this thread, wasn't it? BUT HE MADE A FUCKING JOKE OUT OF IT.
The only thing he has done to me is disrespect. And he has yet to make me change my mind on that.
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And to Warmonger's point about the first two people to post in here being complained about more, I disagree completely. There are more threads that have been created about Bespin than player in recent time. I regret erasing my thread I had before, which had a ridiculous amount of posts and support, and views.
If you didn't delete that, 1ce posted how afk pushing wouldn't be able to happen because you can't go "afk". So why shouldn't people just afk at there houses? And there was NO HARM DONE!!! TO ANYONE!
Bg bruddha, he pushed me in and took my prot iv d set that was brand new durability, along with other items I had and my XP levels. I posted a complaint, Ice decided it was my fault, and so I left it at the admins decision, even if it was against how I felt it should have been handled. If it was you, how would you have felt? His dumbass title was given to him for other reasons as well.
Edit: This was before the new 5 minute timer.
Edit 2: I left it as it is since the subject had been decided, and I respect the admins, but will bring it up this time to go over the history.
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That was before I had Dumb*** and before no damage could be done at spawn.
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And to Warmonger's point about the first two people to post in here being complained about more, I disagree completely. There are more threads that have been created about Bespin than player in recent time. I regret erasing my thread I had before, which had a ridiculous amount of posts and support, and views.
If you didn't delete that, 1ce posted how afk pushing wouldn't be able to happen because you can't go "afk". So why shouldn't people just afk at there houses? And there was NO HARM DONE!!! TO ANYONE!
Bg bruddha, he pushed me in and took my prot iv d set that was brand new durability, along with other items I had and my XP levels. I posted a complaint, Ice decided it was my fault, and so I left it at the admins decision, even if it was against how I felt it should have been handled. If it was you, how would you have felt? His dumbass title was given to him for other reasons as well.
I agree pushing you and taking your stuff was too far. But that isn't what he was banned for. He didn't kill mio, or steal her stuff.
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Okay Bes, I'll say this much. If you get unbanned, you will not get off free. You will have reprucssions, no doubt in my mind. You HAVE wronged the server and you deserve that. But on the other hand, you have had done good, I'll agree. You have built and whatnot. My questions are what follow:
1) Did you really learn your lessons during your time as a dumbass?:
2) If you did, why did you make a mockery of your ban appeal. You know this is serious, not a joke.:
3) Why would you even try to mess with an admin, even if it's something stupid and didn't do any damage, when you were already in trouble:
4) Why do you deserve to come back to the server. You said a few posts ago you don't, but it would be nice. (It would be nice if I got 1 million dollars. Doesn't mean I deserve it.):
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I agree that Ben's appeal was not suitable when considering that his main audience is the admin team. This kind of satire would have been better in the "General Discussion" thread.
However, the initial reason for his ban seems inappropriate, regardless of his past crimes. We should be focusing on why he was banned in the first place because there has already been agreement and punishment placed on his crimes in the past (ie: "Dumbass" title).
The degree of the crime, "AFK-pushing," doesn't equal the degree of the highest form of punishment, The BanHammer, whether it was toward an admin or not.
At this moment, I think it's best to give him punishment based on his "AFK-pushing" and give a heed of warning to his satirical appeal. To find the post "insulting" or "disrespectful" is an opinion based on who's reading it. Also, his appeal wouldn't have been made it there hadn't been an irrational decision to ban him in the first place.
After the warning, however, Ben should not be excused from "disrespecting" the admin team in this similar manner.
And according to the Rules:
These are Admin Rules, to avoid abuse of power. Applied to Moderators as well.
[1] Bans require agreement. If no other Admin is online, the ban may be enacted, but must be reported to the other Admins, or the ban thread in our forum. If it is not agreed upon, then the ban will be lifted, and announced in the Forum Thread. This includes lifting a ban that has been appealed in a forum.
And again, focusing on the INITIAL reason of the ban (AFK-pushing), any possible objection to it should mean that the ban should be lifted.
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Wow Anniiee Posted :D
I agree with Anniiee on this one. And this again goes back to my motive for the dropping of Mio and Zombie from Admins. They have been making repetative missuse of their powers. If any of the mods banned a player because they were pushing the mod would the ban be warranted? Admin does not make you Arceus . Powerful, but not Arceus .
And to Vith. Would you please quit talking out of your butt? Every time you speak I feel like you are just talking to make as many people mad as possible. I really dont get your complaining about Ben as honestly everything that he did to you was your fault. I have NEVER been killed while I was away from my computer. You know why? I LOG OFF :rotf: I vote to have a 1 week mute on Vith for dissrespect to others. That is all.
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He's not appealing about the dumbass title thing, is he? No, he never mentions that in the OP from what I can find. So I'm throwing that out of this argument. And if he wishes to bring that up, I will personally say sorry but what's done is done. Sorry your title was not removed the instance your time was up. We are only human.
Ann, bans of this care are normally based on past crimes. We don't ban people of this stature over one things, it's over accumulation of acts. If he had only done this, I wouldn't vote for a ban. If he only trolled people, I wouldn't ban. If he only killed noobs I wouldn't ban. If he was disrespectful to admins I woudn't ban. But he did all of these things has he not? Why is it wrong for him receive punishment for this? You can respond and say "But all of those punishments should had been covered by his dumbass title! That was the point!" and I agree. Like I said, I don't care about AFK-pushing. I don't, I don't, I don't. And the fact that he was banned on that is stupid and like I said before, I would have voted to unban for it. But it's his disrespect and because of his past actions and that I would ban him now.
So what do we do? Vote in the admin meeting that we were wrong and he should be unbanned for that and then right away ban him for being an asshole to the admin team through his posts? It's a confusing situation, I'll give you that.
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If he only killed noobs
Since when is killing noobs to even be CONSIDERED in any form of punishment :o (cumulative or not...)
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Wow Anniiee Posted :D
I agree with Anniiee on this one. And this again goes back to my motive for the dropping of Mio and Zombie from Admins. They have been making repetative missuse of their powers. If any of the mods banned a player because they were pushing the mod would the ban be warranted? Admin does not make you Arceus . Powerful, but not Arceus .
And to Vith. Would you please quit talking out of your butt? Every time you speak I feel like you are just talking to make as many people mad as possible. I really dont get your complaining about Ben as honestly everything that he did to you was your fault. I have NEVER been killed while I was away from my computer. You know why? I LOG OFF :rotf: I vote to have a 1 week mute on Vith for dissrespect to others. That is all.
You want to explain how I'm disrespecting others? I'm bringing to light my opinions and views, and posting information I think pertinent to the case at hand. I think the only people that are getting mad is you and your friend Ben, whom you are defending. I think your disrespectful posts shed light on who's being disrespectful, and your volatile attitude of going back and forth on disrespecting the admins, then trying to support mods for promotion is not helping.
Everyone is entitled to post.
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If he only killed noobs
Since when is killing noobs to even be CONSIDERED in any form of punishment :o (cumulative or not...)
It's the little things like that that are what hurt your case, not make them. Like I said, I wouldn't ban him for that. But he is known for killing noobs who will not give him anything in benefit. That's not good, it only makes you a worse person in an admin's eyes.
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If he only killed noobs
Since when is killing noobs to even be CONSIDERED in any form of punishment :o (cumulative or not...)
It's the little things like that that are what hurt your case, not make them. Like I said, I wouldn't ban him for that. But he is known for killing noobs who will not give him anything in benefit. That's not good, it only makes you a worse person in an admin's eyes.
Again, harassing and following others just for the purpose of "trolling" or annoying is, harassment. What's rule number one? I hope that this post doesn't make you mad, it's important to respect someone. Even if someone is not AFK, and he's pushing them around, constantly following them and killing them, I think it would constitute harassment. This would have to be decided on by the admins, which again, deserve respect and make the rules.
Edit: In respect for others, the admins, and you and Bespin, I've said what I wanted to say, and will leave the rest to the server.
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"I have told him before NOT to afk push and he should know better then to push me of all people because i smite/kill/kick him for it, its fucking annoying." -Mio
That is the original reason for the ban. Mind you it was not a permaban. So the Admins are now allowed to ban for no legitimate reason and demand appologies and perfect behavior. What a great server this has become...
Now here this. I DO NOT HAVE ANY DISSRESPECT FOR THE ADMIN TEAM! But I cannot stand by when any admin continues to make bad decisions. Further more I cannot stand by while the rest of the admin team stands by/ignores the problems. In this I lose respect for the team as a hole. I am not trying to dissrespect, just voicing my loss of respect and reasoning.
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Yes, Ben's appeal may have sounded "disrespectful," by the opinion of an X number of admins.
However, the initial ban was placed on "AFK-pushing," not "an accumulation of acts." Which is exactly what he appealed to.
His mediocre response was to a mediocre ban. Some room for warning should be acceptable.
At the very least, I believe that he should be given a chance to write a second ban appeal. An appeal to his ban by AFK-pushing (if not already repealed) and an appeal to his "disrespect" to the admins.
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First I would like to say that was very well written as it was disrespectful. And next I would very much enjoy to share a time line with you
Day before the admin meeting: I was sitting in a pokecenter watching the pokesever/doing other things and i notice bes afk push me so i warn him, I forgot how many times he did it before I told him I would kill him if he did not stop, So I either smited or killed him, I gave him one or two warnings before I did this. Im there and not afk and its just annoying and to keep doing it when i say stop is rude. When I did kill him he apologized and asked for his stuff back so I did return the items.
Admin meeting: We decided, its even in the post, that bes should get two more weeks because of the complains we have gotten for him, this was his last warning because we have given him so many.
THE SAME DAY, OR DAY AFTER THE ADMIN MEETING: I get pushed off reds house and I dont see anyone.
I get pushed standing infront of reds house and i turn around and its bes and he logs off, I send him mail and say "This is not how you get dumbass taken off" I fly to the top of reds house. He comes back and pushes me off AGAIN so I ban him, I gave him warnings and i was just irritated at this point. When Rigby gets on I told him I banned bes and why and he just says "ok"
I make the post with the conditions: I get an appeal that is (funny) disrespectful and shows that he does not give ONE shit if he ever comes back. I was NOT going to enforce the "pay 10 or build" rule all i wanted was a nice apology and I would have unbanned, thats all. This unstead I get this shit?
And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
I am human and I agree with WAR that I have had made mistakes in my past, maybe over stepped my bounds but every admin on this team has and I try to better myself and not do shit without a reason like you have seen in this post. I am sorry that this has gotten this far and i read all of the comments in this thread and I STILL beilive what I did was correct. The two week extention was one of many warnings and chances we tried to give you and we told you that we wanted to see you on your best behavior, and you screwed it up, if you agree with me or not.
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At the very least, I believe that he should be given a chance to write a second ban appeal. An appeal to his ban by AFK-pushing (if not already repealed) and an appeal to his "disrespect" to the admins.
He has all the right in the world. This is probably the smartest thing anyone has said in his defense.
"I have told him before NOT to afk push and he should know better then to push me of all people because i smite/kill/kick him for it, its fucking annoying." -Mio
That is the original reason for the ban. Mind you it was not a permaban. So the Admins are now allowed to ban for no legitimate reason and demand appologies and perfect behavior. What a great server this has become...
Now here this. I DO NOT HAVE ANY DISSRESPECT FOR THE ADMIN TEAM! But I cannot stand by when any admin continues to make bad decisions. Further more I cannot stand by while the rest of the admin team stands by/ignores the problems. In this I lose respect for the team as a hole. I am not trying to dissrespect, just voicing my loss of respect and reasoning.
I never accused you of dissrespect. Only bes, which was clearly obvious. And I'm happy you're voicing your opinions. I'd love to hear any complaints you have about an admin, be it mio or be it me, I don't care. I truly want the best for the server. May I suggest making a complaint topic about any admin you deem unfit? I'm 100% serious. As long as it is created in an adult-like manner, I will read it and consider it. But if you act like a 2 year old, and I doubt you will, I will not consider it.
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
Ok I agree on that part, I had no idea when the title was suppose to be taken off, we should have been following it but a reminder would have been nice, next time we make someone dumbass we should tell them to make a single post somewhere to reminds us in the future, there is just so much to remember, it is the admins fault but just in the future and stuff...
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After reading this thing I've seen just different types of fights
War, Bes, Anniiee Vs Paradox
Anniiee Vs Vith
A bunch of people Vs Bes
Mio & Paradox Vs Bes
Here's the thing.
- Bes just write a simple nice apology and sincere to everyone including the admins
- Anniieee the rules "Bend" at times in order for special cases, also multiple offenses may lead to something similar to a big ban able offense (Like Pirating movies may be only 5 years, but if you do it enough times it might be enough as 50 years for murder) Bending the rules happens during real life cases too.
- War don't be mad at the admins, I agree with some points, but you did your time well, Bes instead just trolled with it. You said Hix had his dumbass immediately removed, that's because he didn't go to wild 2 and start trolling people. People like going to the wild to experience freedom in building, having Bes block it with his pvp trolling is not fun and discourages donators.
No offense guys but if Bespin would just write a simple sincere apology instead of his sarcastic-blaming-everything-on-others apology, everything would be just fine.
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I'm not verse anyone. On the opposite, I even apologized. But nonetheless, you make good points.
No offense guys but if Bespin would just write a simple sincere apology instead of his sarcastic-blaming-everything-on-others apology, everything would be just fine.
Ding ding, we have a winner.
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Lol so its all up to bes now...xD
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Good luck bes :)
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After reading this thing I've seen just different types of fights
War, Bes, Anniiee Vs Paradox
Anniiee Vs Vith
A bunch of people Vs Bes
Mio & Paradox Vs Bes
Here's the thing.
- Bes just write a simple nice apology and sincere to everyone including the admins
- Anniieee the rules "Bend" at times in order for special cases, also multiple offenses may lead to something similar to a big ban able offense (Like Pirating movies may be only 5 years, but if you do it enough times it might be enough as 50 years for murder) Bending the rules happens during real life cases too.
- War don't be mad at the admins, I agree with some points, but you did your time well, Bes instead just trolled with it. You said Hix had his dumbass immediately removed, that's because he didn't go to wild 2 and start trolling people. People like going to the wild to experience freedom in building, having Bes block it with his pvp trolling is not fun and discourages donators.
No offense guys but if Bespin would just write a simple sincere apology instead of his sarcastic-blaming-everything-on-others apology, everything would be just fine.
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
Ok I agree on that part, I had no idea when the title was suppose to be taken off, we should have been following it but a reminder would have been nice, next time we make someone dumbass we should tell them to make a single post somewhere to reminds us in the future, there is just so much to remember, it is the admins fault but just in the future and stuff...
I hate to intrude but I see admins online and remind them that the deadline is over. They are not AFK and what do I get? No FREAKING reply about this. =.=
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
Ok I agree on that part, I had no idea when the title was suppose to be taken off, we should have been following it but a reminder would have been nice, next time we make someone dumbass we should tell them to make a single post somewhere to reminds us in the future, there is just so much to remember, it is the admins fault but just in the future and stuff...
I hate to intrude but I see admins online and remind them that the deadline is over. They are not AFK and what do I get? No FREAKING reply about this. =.=
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
Ok I agree on that part, I had no idea when the title was suppose to be taken off, we should have been following it but a reminder would have been nice, next time we make someone dumbass we should tell them to make a single post somewhere to reminds us in the future, there is just so much to remember, it is the admins fault but just in the future and stuff...
I hate to intrude but I see admins online and remind them that the deadline is over. They are not AFK and what do I get? No FREAKING reply about this. =.=
Let me update you a bit. We have a good 20-30 people on constantly a day. As an admin, there is normally one of us on at a time, sometimes two or three if you're lucky. That means there are 30 of you guys asking us to do things while there is one of us. I get so many whispers/mails every day it's ridiculous, why do you think we vamped up the amount of mods? We can't possibly cater to everything, and whispering us is not always enough. I WISH I could get on the server and no one would bother me about things like housing, problems, fights, ect., but as an admin we need to fix these things. Like mio said, bes should had just make a simple post saying "Hey, my time is up" and it would have been undone. We're busy people. You will never realize how much work we put into the server, and I love how you think we willingly ignore you guys for fun. I really laugh at that, we put so much effort into trying to maximze your experience and all you did is talk trash on how we forget to make bes not a dumbass for maybe a day or two? (Not like I said sorry for that in my previous posts. Thanks for reading that though)It's not like we built this server and cater to your every need or anything. Never do we get a thank you for what we do. That really makes me feel good. Thanks war and zek, I appreciate it.
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And para, it even says in the admin meeting post that we are extending the dumbass rank two more weeks so I was surprised to see an apology from you.
There was a time between when we were suppose to take off the dumbass tag and when he extended it. It was only a short while, but even for that short of a time I would apologize. Unless I'm mistaken, I may be.
Ok I agree on that part, I had no idea when the title was suppose to be taken off, we should have been following it but a reminder would have been nice, next time we make someone dumbass we should tell them to make a single post somewhere to reminds us in the future, there is just so much to remember, it is the admins fault but just in the future and stuff...
I hate to intrude but I see admins online and remind them that the deadline is over. They are not AFK and what do I get? No FREAKING reply about this. =.=
Let me update you a bit. We have a good 20-30 people on constantly a day. As an admin, there is normally one of us on at a time, sometimes two or three if you're lucky. That means there are 30 of you guys asking us to do things while there is one of us. I get so many whispers/mails every day it's ridiculous, why do you think we vamped up the amount of mods? We can't possibly cater to everything, and whispering us is not always enough. I WISH I could get on the server and no one would bother me about things like housing, problems, fights, ect., but as an admin we need to fix these things. Like mio said, bes should had just make a simple post saying "Hey, my time is up" and it would have been undone. We're busy people. You will never realize how much work we put into the server, and I love how you think we willingly ignore you guys for fun. I really laugh at that, we put so much effort into trying to maximze your experience and all you did is talk trash on how we forget to make bes not a dumbass for maybe a day or two? (Not like I said sorry for that in my previous posts. Thanks for reading that though)It's not like we built this server and cater to your every need or anything. Never do we get a thank you for what we do. That really makes me feel good. Thanks war and zek, I appreciate it.
Hey, I'm just saying that when I remind you guys, you do not reply, sometimes I know you are busy, but usually when I am online, nothing goes on and you guys should not be busy with your work, I understand that and I think that you guys do a good job as admins and help out the serer as much as you can and personally I think that other people thank you with their heard from the inside. I know what you mean and all I wanted to say that you guys could just reply I am busy, besides, I only asked once when mio was online. :p
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that was amazing i think u should get unbanned
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that was amazing i think u should get unbanned
2 days later... this appeal must've meant so much to him >.>
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Before I was fine with bes and I probably would've lobbied for him to be unbanned if someone proposed it. But now there's no way in hell I'm letting you back. I will do everything in my power to keep you off the server. You want to be a smart ass? Fine, be one. I'm lobbying also to get you banned from the forums ASAP. Isn't it fun to be an asshole? I love it.
That cold but hey,I'll do the same
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Probably should be locked because it seems as though Bes isn't coming back.
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Probably should be locked because it seems as though Bes isn't coming back.
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Seems legit
!LOCKED (until I hear otherwise from admins/bes/war)