Pokemon Server Archive
PvP Server => Ban/Punishment-Related => Topic started by: ArchieSalt on February 17, 2012, 08:14:34 am
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I have seen the post about the admin meeting and im glad you have given me a chance.
This post is to discuss my punishment. I can guarantee as Head Moderator of hoenn that i will be strongly involved in the creation of hoenn. I will also make sure nobody faults the map by griefing Etc.
What i would like to discuss is my ban. I know that when i spawned diamonds i was lucky to not be banned. But if you think about it this way. Me and War are both banned. War has been perma banned 3 times now. and 2 times his appeal was granted. I have been perma banned once. And have had no appeals granted.
What im saying is i would love to be let back onto the server under probation like kenshin said. I promise i will still be at the heart of hoenns development at the same time.
My reasons for wanting to be unbanned are as follows:
1) Being perma banned is like being excluded from school. No friends to talk to. no news, no life. My only form of communication is through the forums.
2) Johto is very clearly near completion. As a decent contributor to the masterpiece that is the johto region. I would like to be around when it is opened.
3) I miss you all very much, more than you would ever know
4) After being perma banned, ive obtained a sense of whats wrong and whats right. I can guarantee that i will never wrong any admins or anybody ever again.
In the end its the admins descision. Id like to think that my poll could contribute to me being unbanned.
So this is what i propose.
If my poll shows that a lot of people want me back on and very little do not.
I will hopefully be let back on probation.
I will keep my stats. Lose my houses, money, and be banned from the nether for atleast 2 months or more admins descision.
Like kenshin said i will be monitored every second im online.
I never intend to wrong anybody again.
-ArchieSalt
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I believe Archie can have a 2nd Chance from a Permabanned. He won't botch it up like last time. I miss Archie's presence on the server, he just does funny as hell things. Hopefully the admins release their anger for Archie. May the best of luck
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I agree with Liquid. Archie's a boss and a nice guy and you'd think that after being permabanned you wouldn't screw up again.
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Archie hasnt been the best person on the pokemon server but when i was with him on the animal crossing server and hoenn he seems like he sincerly feels bad which is a sign of maturity. So im up for him being unbanned.
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Thanks for your opinions guys
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Hopefully Admins will look into their hearts.
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Thank dude
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Archie clearly learned of his mistake, I don't think he will make one ever again, I hope Archie is allowed to come back to the server.
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Like i said before ... archie is a loved & donating & apreciated player
He should by given one more chance .
Im sorry but thats how I think .
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WOH i wouldnt go as far to say apreciated TA he's an alright guy but i doubt we apreciate him.
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I think Archie should stay banned
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JK lol Archie is a cool dude, I think he should be on MEGA probabtion, and I also think that it is a burden to put on the admins to monitor him EVERY second when there are so many people on the server nowadays. He also got creative mode taken from everyone, etc. etc. overall Archie is a cool dude and should be unbanned, but personally Archie you shouldn't be demanding anything in the position your in.
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I never demanded anything lol. i simply said ill happily return under admin conditions
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You demanded to have your stats :I
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Thats not a demand and if you look at the admin meeting topic it says that anybody unbanned will get their stats back.
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Rules are rules. Don't know him, don't care, but if you say this is punishment and renig on it, what is it then? You don't stick to your own rules, the all this server seems to be is a popularity contest.
Since this is a public forum, I'm just trying to give a voice to all the new fresh blood we've seen sweep the server since the ad on minestatus(why I came on), who may not know who that is or even give a damn. But I'm sure they'd either want fair treatment, or they'll want the multiple free chances to mock admins and exploit the game.
How can you do both and be justified?
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Who is this directed to?
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I think archie and TA should lose their stats, they both know why :P
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why?
Cos we beat you in excavation?
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Mctop, excavation doesnt matter.
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lol i didnt see you as a grudge holder
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Rules are rules. Don't know him, don't care, but if you say this is punishment and renig on it, what is it then? You don't stick to your own rules, the all this server seems to be is a popularity contest.
Since this is a public forum, I'm just trying to give a voice to all the new fresh blood we've seen sweep the server since the ad on minestatus(why I came on), who may not know who that is or even give a damn. But I'm sure they'd either want fair treatment, or they'll want the multiple free chances to mock admins and exploit the game.
How can you do both and be justified?
Vithrus, it can be justified when the punishment system isn't based on action, but on intent. If a person learns the lesson they were meant to, then we can possibly agree to allow them back. This goes for any violation of any rule. We aren't robots, and can't give a value to any rule broken to create a specific punishment for it, and I really wouldn't want to. If I see someone X-Ray, I will ban them, but if they appeal and sound sincere enough to be believed, I will honestly consider unbanning them. Learning the lesson is the most important part of any punishment to me, and I can forgive someone if they do. That, not popularity, is why I have considered unbanning him (under difficult conditions). In fact, one of our most famous players was quite popular, very powerful, and was even champion when we banned him. And when ArchieSalt was compared to ZangetsuMC I knew that this was the same case, and changed my vote towards banning him. I can look through the "popularity" long enough to grit my teeth and ban. But I can also forgive with compassion and peace of mind that it won't happen again.
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I know what you mean 1ce but i have actually changed for the better.
You have to see where im coming from when i say that war has had many more appeals accepted than me
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Ye, archie is a good boy, he was raised in a good enviroment.
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I know what you mean 1ce but i have actually changed for the better.
You have to see where im coming from when i say that war has had many more appeals accepted than me
Due to your histories, I can't directly compare either of you two to each other. We have set the terms, and that is how they will stay.
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I know what you mean 1ce but i have actually changed for the better.
You have to see where im coming from when i say that war has had many more appeals accepted than me
Due to your histories, I can't directly compare either of you two to each other. We have set the terms, and that is how they will stay.
How can you not directly compare us?
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Y'all are simply too different, as were the cumulative reasons that we decided to ban you with.
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Ill say this now.
Asking to build an entire region is too much work to be unbanned and the time it takes to build it means theres no point in returning.
I was looking forward to training and hopefully continuing my elite four challenge through my break from school. Instead im perma banned. and have a whole load of stress on my shoulders trying to get unbanned and convincing everybody that im sincerely sorry.
If nobody can see this. then ive wasted my time.
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Im sorry ive just been stressed the last few days.
could we just let the poll run?
Like you said
let everyone put their 2 cents in
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Archie, this was our decision after seeing the poll, and reading ken's argument.
By the way, Kanto was built in 1 month. So building a region won't take that long if you recruit well and build as often as you post pleas.
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Archie, this was our decision after seeing the poll, and reading ken's argument.
By the way, Kanto was built in 1 month. So building a region won't take that long if you recruit well and build as often as you post pleas.
Yes but kanto was built in 1 month to quite a poor standard.
sure its a good replica but compared to johto its bad.
You didnt take into account the fact that every admin and mod has to approve it including zombie
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Im not in charge of recruiting.
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Check your inbox 1ce
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Im confused now.
If hoenn is being moved onto the pokemon server does that mean im sort of unbanned?
If i ever get unbanned i can guarantee you wont regret it and i will be donating $40-60
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Thanks for responding Ice! I didn't mean any disrespect, I just wanted you all to maybe see a different view from an objective outsider considering the rules and appeal process - you all aren't robots, I know, and have made my experience quite enjoyable. Your response was very detailed and I appreciate it documented.
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I also miss Archie :( I vote for unban.
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Im confused now.
If hoenn is being moved onto the pokemon server does that mean im sort of unbanned?
If i ever get unbanned i can guarantee you wont regret it and i will be donating $40-60
No, you may have been the Head of Building Hoenn but it doesn't mean admins are forced to unban you. Also, as Rigby always says, donations don't keep you from getting banned and you can't buy off a admin to unban you.
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-.- Im not saying they are forced to unban me im just saying i have to be unbanned if im going to build.
And im not buying an unban i planned on donating anyway however its useless if im banned
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Okay why does it say banned.
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Because I finally got special group names to work
:)
;)
:D
;D
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basically youll be unbanned but secluded and only in a small Mv tucked away to toil. Unless I am mistaken. 8)
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Ok :(
I really think we could work something out but we cant do it like this.
If zombie manages to unban me from TS id like to talk to all the admins.
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Because I finally got special group names to work
:)
;)
:D
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Way to rub it in :(
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Hopefully magic worked, and unbanned
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Because I finally got special group names to work
:)
;)
:D
;D
Way to rub it in :(
Like a Boss 8)
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I swear its pronounced like this bwao-oshe
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more like Bwass but lol 8)
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oh lol, i forgot its 1 syllable
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1ce :P
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Will i get my stats back while i build?
That would be cool
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Listen, this is the reality. You're willing to build Hoenn for us, and in return, we are going to let you back on the server in our multiverse world. As far as I hear, though not 100% sure, you can still talk with between between worlds. Sadly, Archie, though fact of the matter wasn't that the entire situation itself was intensely bad (It was really bad though), it was the fact that you were a senior member and you KNEW that if something was blocked off, don't go in it. There is 0 excuse for that. 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. It hurts to see that someone who has contributed so much went behind out backs to do something wrong.
In relation to what's on topic, you'll probably be able to talk to everyone still, but you'll be locked in your own world. And that's the punishment you deserve. I can tell you love this server a lot, so it hurts me to stop you from going on it, it really does, but you do deserve this. I really hate it when people that I trust go behind my back. And you and a bunch of people did that.
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So once hoenn is completed i will be allowed back into the entire server?
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So once hoenn is completed i will be allowed back into the entire server?
You're willing to build Hoenn for us, and in return, we are going to let you back on the server in our multiverse world.
Don't think so :(
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Listen, this is the reality. You're willing to build Hoenn for us, and in return, we are going to let you back on the server in our multiverse world. As far as I hear, though not 100% sure, you can still talk with between between worlds. Sadly, Archie, though fact of the matter wasn't that the entire situation itself was intensely bad (It was really bad though), it was the fact that you were a senior member and you KNEW that if something was blocked off, don't go in it. There is 0 excuse for that. 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. It hurts to see that someone who has contributed so much went behind out backs to do something wrong.
In relation to what's on topic, you'll probably be able to talk to everyone still, but you'll be locked in your own world. And that's the punishment you deserve. I can tell you love this server a lot, so it hurts me to stop you from going on it, it really does, but you do deserve this. I really hate it when people that I trust go behind my back. And you and a bunch of people did that.
I know :(
I want to talk about the period of time when johto is being opened though.
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No, once you build Hoenn on our multiverse world, you can go back into the real world with everything and whatnot. Sorry, miscommunication.
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ok thanks
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Ya once the other regions are done and we put em together Those punished will be welcomed back 8)
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Will i get my stats back while i build?
That would be cool
Hell no.
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Will i get my stats back while i build?
That would be cool
Hell no.
Agreed 8)
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DDDDDDD: Okay
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Okay, I believe the full extent of this topic is reached. Archie, if you are able to complete and entire region and people or whatever for us, and it is approved by the mods and admins, you will be unbanned, but you will lose stats, money, house, ect.
!LOCKED