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PvP Server => Problems => Topic started by: Sherminator4000 on December 20, 2012, 03:30:47 am

Title: Griefing the other server
Post by: Sherminator4000 on December 20, 2012, 03:30:47 am
I do understand the point you guys are trying to make about kirpi2011 copying the idea of the pokemon server.  But to come along and grief all of the work we've done 4 TIMES is just really harsh now, you are wasting peoples time as well as your own trying to stop it. It is not your choice what kirpi2011 wants to do for a server. He's told me he is making the new map because he doesn't like some of the people going on the original and that a lot of the moderators and admins don't listen to him.  He has made plugins that don't lag at all and make the server much more pokemon like. Also we are not copying from the original server block to block because we are copying from the game to the best scale we can, if we somehow copy the type of block you use then sorry that is just a coincidence. We are not intending to properly copy the server especially with the plugins that we have got installed.  Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag, it keeps getting hacked (agent_339, and whoever it was who hacked Pnut), and that some of the people, particularly a couple of the mods and admins (i'm not naming who) aren't very friendly, especially after this all started.
So please stop griefing Kirpi2011's server because it really is harsh to do what your doing, especially when you know that he is putting money into it. He even donated to your server, so he is helping you out trying to keep your server up. So repay him by leaving him and his server alone whilst we build on it.


P.S.  Please don't just ignore this like i know you always do, i'm trying to make very serious points here.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 20, 2012, 03:41:51 am
Blame tene, not us.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 20, 2012, 03:42:57 am
Besides, you even quit our server just for that one >.>
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 20, 2012, 05:44:04 am
Blame tene, not us.

Why blame me, It was Kirpi's fault for not trying to get unbanned, and thus thinking he can make a rip off of the real deal.


Besides, you even quit our server just for that one >.>

Untrue, he quit due to lag.


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How would you like someone to copy an idea that you've been keeping strong for over 18months? and exact copy. Griefing is only wasting one person's time, that of the builder. Griefers take enjoyment from griefing, seeing the distress of others at their work being destroyed. Sounds familiar...
Not our choice to what kirpi does, but we can at least dissuade him from the idea.
If he dislikes players, in particular mods and admins, theres a forum section for complaints.
You copied the map exact. Things such as the windows in Oaks lab were exact to tactic_ninja's design, and thats no reason to remove such work? I'd be annoyed if I say my work being passed off as someone elses.
Servers don't just get hacked. Its the players that take advantage of the owners stupidity.
Why would people be friendly to someone stealing their idea, something which them, and many others, have put immense work into.
If he doesn't want to be griefed, I'd suggest him trying something else. Theres only rebellion because that server rivals the current, and players here don't like that.
If he really cared about this server, he wouldn't have started his own copy, and he would've actually tried to get unbanned like a normal person.
I'm sure some people will leave you alone, but why let a rival server have a chance to prosper.


I'd have written more, but it got erased >.> Argue away at this, but you're fighting a losing battle. People have tried this idea before, and failed. So...


I leave you some pictures (https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.hackforums.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fblackhat.gif&hash=ee0944d01db6ae68e41bcfa88df5d11e)
(Don't they look familiar)
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Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 20, 2012, 05:44:47 am
No, kirpi did.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Sherminator4000 on December 20, 2012, 06:33:33 am
zekrom 1ce came on yesterday night after the whitelist command failed, and tene we blame you cos everyone keeps saying you've got 'clones' or something like that so you can keep trying to OP yourself and grief the hell out of the server. You keep to your business on YOUR server while we do what we want on Kirpi's server. You can't decide what we do.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 20, 2012, 06:48:15 am
zekrom 1ce came on yesterday night after the whitelist command failed, and tene we blame you cos everyone keeps saying you've got 'clones' or something like that so you can keep trying to OP yourself and grief the hell out of the server. You keep to your business on YOUR server while we do what we want on Kirpi's server. You can't decide what we do.
You can blame me all you want. I don't really care.
I can't decide what you do. I can influence it, but the decision is yours. Do you keep getting griefed, or do you actually move ahead with building and try something else.That choice is yours.


I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong, but its not right. You've seen how serious the pokeserver community is to see the kirpi-cat (ERMAGHERD KIRPI CAT) server fail, and in your best interest, I would urge you to try building elsewhere, unless you enjoy wasting your time rebuilding the same area over and over.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 20, 2012, 07:07:48 am
He has made plugins that don't lag at all

Mcmmo is on that server. Nuff said.

We are not intending to properly copy the server especially with the plugins that we have got installed.

Let me guess: Essentials, CreeperHeal, EssentialsProtect, Heads, EssentialsChat, EssentialsSpawn, Mcmmo, WorldEdit, hm... Feel free to fill me in on any custom plugin that kirpi has made (that is so blessedly lagless) that we do not already use.

It keeps getting hacked (agent_339, and whoever it was who hacked Pnut)

Our server has never been hacked. Agent_339 is a troll, and Pnut got himself hacked, our server was not involved. Your logic is flawed.

and that some of the people, particularly a couple of the mods and admins (i'm not naming who) aren't very friendly, especially after this all started.

You expect people to be amiable after the server has been copied. This is also a mistake.

So please stop griefing Kirpi2011's server because it really is harsh to do what your doing, especially when you know that he is putting money into it.

People get griefed all the time, its one of the risks as a server owner. It is his responsibility to guard against it, as the PokemonServer did over a year ago when it started up.

He even donated to your server, so he is helping you out trying to keep your server up.

And as I do to all donators, I thank him for it. However:

So repay him by leaving him and his server alone whilst we build on it.

I can't control people who do not own this server, and any donation Kirpi, or any other player makes, does not benefit any individual member of the PokemonServer. They owe him nothing, and cannot be leveraged by his contribution.

P.S.  Please don't just ignore this like i know you always do, i'm trying to make very serious points here.

Your rude assumption is false, I ignore nothing in this forum, particularly in this topic, and in Problems, and in Suggestions. Making that assumption and throwing it in our faces (since you aren't naming names) is not the way to prevent further griefing from anyone. Farewell.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 20, 2012, 07:11:42 am
1ce came on yesterday night after the whitelist command failed

Your point? I wanted to see for myself what y'all were doing. Logblock my actions and see for yourself that I didn't do anything in that server.

Unless Kirpi wasnt SMART ENOUGH TO INSTALL SOME KIND OF BLOCK LOGGING?!?!?!?

 :jawdrop:
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 20, 2012, 07:20:36 am
Nonono, ok, this is hilarious. I JUST saw a plugin list from that server, and I can't stop laughing.

Lets go through this.

Plugins the pokemonserver already has:
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WorldEdit, Heads, PermissionsEx, Modifyworld, mcMMO, WorldGuard, Essentials, ModDamage, EssentialsSpawn, EssentialsChat


Plugins the pokemonserver doesn't have:
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CreeperHeal, MagicSigns, ChatManager

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CreeperHeal
Properly use a world-protection plugin (you already have one, its called worldguard)
And you won't need this. Extra plugin: more lag.

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MagicSigns
What can this do that Essentials Signs can't? Trying to replicate our [Heal] and [Warp] signs?
Extra plugin: more lag.

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ChatManager
I will promote every user who goes on that server to MasterDonator if I see that plugin with a legitimate timestamp, NOT a red color in the pluginlist because it is broken. How many servers have I been on that had that plugin, Red, and broken, because they didn't realize they didn't need it.
PS: You have EssentialsChat, YOU DONT NEED CHATMANAGER.
Extra plugin: more lag.


Three extra plugins with no purpose: more lag. Good job.

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ModDamage
:D :haha: :rotf: :roflmao: :p :evil: :laugh: :squee:
Oh my  Arceus  that made my cry with laughter. I realize the pokemonserver has this, but it needed special mention.
I invite Kirpi2011 to give me ONE reason he added that plugin. ONE thing he intended to do with it. THEN I invite him to explain what ModDamage config he intends to write to do such a thing. It is completely up to him, but I'm seriously interested on what his level is in the MD language.
Unless He Simply Added It Because He Was Copying Some Other Server's Plugin List (That we keep 90% hidden for just this reason)

I think my rant is over. Happy reading.

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Please don't just ignore this like i know you always do, i'm trying to make very serious points here.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 20, 2012, 07:25:12 am
I lied, my rant isn't over.

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This server is a piece of garbage, it's far too laggy, it's full of hackers and some of the people on it are generally just ­s. They've gone onto my server 3 TIMES and deleted all our progress because apparently 'we've copied their map' when in reality we haven't done anything of the sort. We are copying from the game to scale and they come along and ruin it. So if you want to be with these ­s then I hope you have a miserable time.
~MinecraftForums

Next time you publicly bash our server, I will personally get involved with the destruction of that server. You haven't made me an enemy yet, I simply see your "group" as a naive bunch of newbies, but do that again and you will not be on my neutral side.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 20, 2012, 07:35:11 am
I lied, my rant isn't over.
Quote from: Sherm
This server is a piece of garbage, it's far too laggy, it's full of hackers and some of the people on it are generally just ­s. They've gone onto my server 3 TIMES and deleted all our progress because apparently 'we've copied their map' when in reality we haven't done anything of the sort. We are copying from the game to scale and they come along and ruin it. So if you want to be with these ­s then I hope you have a miserable time.
~MinecraftForums


Sherm, its Kirpi's server, not your server. Its one thing to take someone else's map and ideas and use it as your own, but taking something that someone else owns, and calling it yours, thats just not helping your cause.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 20, 2012, 09:23:45 am
Wow you did that to the pokemon server? You freaking kidding me? And banned liquid for no reason(He had nothing behind this sherm >.>)?! Next time you ever do anything like that I'll join 1ce to actually grief the server -.-
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Prodigy39 on December 20, 2012, 03:19:35 pm
He even tried to copy the ranks as tene showed... (though I doubt that he could figure out Pex)
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Frenzy_Monkey47 on December 20, 2012, 04:08:12 pm
Wooow go 1ce :D
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 20, 2012, 06:13:20 pm
He even tried to copy the ranks as tene showed... (though I doubt that he could figure out Pex)
When his server updates, he'll be wondering why pex broke :) And then he'd be lost on ranks, not researching into alternative permissions systems.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Warmonger_2 on December 20, 2012, 06:16:44 pm
Lets just say that you should be glad I cannot get onto your server  :evil:
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 20, 2012, 08:23:13 pm
Lets just say that you should be glad I cannot get onto your server  :evil:
Oh this just made me lol
 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: liquidfired on December 20, 2012, 09:36:57 pm

I don't post a lot, since I quit the server. HOWEVER, this is something worth vouching the pokemonserver for.

I do understand the point you guys are trying to make about kirpi2011 copying the idea of the pokemon server.  But to come along and grief all of the work we've done 4 TIMES is just really harsh now, you are wasting peoples time as well as your own trying to stop it.


First of all, it's not really hard work when you copied the server block for block, and I must admit, 4 times the charm ;). We aren't specifically wasting our own time, probably your's to discourage you from copying a well structured server. It might take 1 more grief, or 10 more griefs, but it will stop, and soon Kirpi will understand to go think of an entirely new idea.


It is not your choice what kirpi2011 wants to do for a server. He's told me he is making the new map because he doesn't like some of the people going on the original and that a lot of the moderators and admins don't listen to him.
Forum Complaints would be a better alternative than wasting shit tons of money to make an utterly useless clone of a server.


He has made plugins that don't lag at all and make the server much more pokemon like. Also we are not copying from the original server block to block because we are copying from the game to the best scale we can, if we somehow copy the type of block you use then sorry that is just a coincidence. We are not intending to properly copy the server especially with the plugins that we have got installed.  Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag, it keeps getting hacked (agent_339, and whoever it was who hacked Pnut), and that some of the people, particularly a couple of the mods and admins (i'm not naming who) aren't very friendly, especially after this all started.


You just contradicted yourself. "We are not copying the original server block to block" "Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag" If you dont like certain mods/admins go complain, not waste money.


So please stop griefing Kirpi2011's server because it really is harsh to do what your doing, especially when you know that he is putting money into it. He even donated to your server, so he is helping you out trying to keep your server up. So repay him by leaving him and his server alone whilst we build on it.
We don't owe Kirpi nothing, it was his choice to donate. Are we forgetting what "Donate" means, you don't go to some charity and donate to the starving children so that they can "owe you one" and return the favour. When someone so infantile to waste money on cloning a server, it's worth the grief.


P.S.  Please don't just ignore this like i know you always do, i'm trying to make very serious points here.
Serious Points:
Kirpi created many new Server Plugins - False
Kirpi is not copying the Pokemon Server - "Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag" - Sherm - False
Kirpi donated to this server and deserves to be repaid - False


It seems to me that many of your "Serious points" are farce. Griefing is Minecraft Nature, our grief isn't as bad as AVO, so get over it. Though I only griefed once, your server deserved it. We grief for Justice, Liberty, and Fraternity, so I wouldn't consider it bad.


Sherm - Hopefully one day you'll come to know that you're a rude retarded prick, and if you really want to defend Kirpi that badly, I believe that you have mental issues. You're points are false, and to sum up, your "Pokemon Server" with the same MOTD, same Ranks, same blocks, will soon burn into the ground along with your reputation.


Why Am I posting this? I've quit, but you criticized my Youtube Career and everyone else's. You think Video making is so easy? GO FUCKING MAKE ONE, and let's see how much of a failure you turn out to be. The fact that I am younger than you and that you still have so many grammatical errors brings concern to me. May  Arceus  have mercy on your soul Sherm.

Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 20, 2012, 09:51:53 pm
I don't post a lot, since I quit the server. HOWEVER, this is something worth vouching the pokemonserver for.


First of all, it's not really hard work when you copied the server block for block, and I must admit, 4 times the charm ;) . We aren't specifically wasting our own time, probably your's to discourage you from copying a well structured server. It might take 1 more grief, or 10 more griefs, but it will stop, and soon Kirpi will understand to go think of an entirely new idea.

Forum Complaints would be a better alternative than wasting shit tons of money to make an utterly useless clone of a server.



You just contradicted yourself. "We are not copying the original server block to block" "Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag" If you dont like certain mods/admins go complain, not waste money.

We don't owe Kirpi nothing, it was his choice to donate. Are we forgetting what "Donate" means, you don't go to some charity and donate to the starving children so that they can "owe you one" and return the favour. When someone so infantile to waste money on cloning a server, it's worth the grief.

Serious Points:
Kirpi created many new Server Plugins - False
Kirpi is not copying the Pokemon Server - "Kirpi says that he's copying because your server has too much server lag" - Sherm - False
Kirpi donated to this server and deserves to be repaid - False


It seems to me that many of your "Serious points" are farce. Griefing is Minecraft Nature, our grief isn't as bad as AVO, so get over it. Though I only griefed once, your server deserved it. We grief for Justice, Liberty, and Fraternity, so I wouldn't consider it bad.


Sherm - Hopefully one day you'll come to know that you're a rude retarded prick, and if you really want to defend Kirpi that badly, I believe that you have mental issues. You're points are false, and to sum up, your "Pokemon Server" with the same MOTD, same Ranks, same blocks, will soon burn into the ground along with your reputation.


Why Am I posting this? I've quit, but you criticized my Youtube Career and everyone else's. You think Video making is so easy? GO FUCKING MAKE ONE, and let's see how much of a failure you turn out to be. The fact that I am younger than you and that you still have so many grammatical errors brings concern to me. May  Arceus  have mercy on your soul Sherm.
Lol sherm got OWNED
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Prodigy39 on December 20, 2012, 10:11:58 pm
Rant posts are better than watching TV...
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 22, 2012, 08:26:23 am
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi259.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh305%2Fjeretry%2F2012-12-22_050213_zpsf9b2fa4d.png&hash=25523455108027a149dba475f5fa4aff)

New: Bending and MobBountyReloaded

MBR: broken, can't imagine why.

Bending: FINALLY AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT WHAT CRAZINESS IS THIS, and its actually one I haven't heard of before...
PS: you have spies in your midst. And not all of them play the pokemonserver. (The real one)
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: liquidfired on December 22, 2012, 08:31:35 am
Fuck Kirpi is so good at javaSCRIPT. HAHAHAHAHAH!
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 22, 2012, 09:15:56 am
Bending is an avatar: the last airbender plugin.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Rigby on December 22, 2012, 11:15:12 am
My opinion for what it matters:
Tene griefs shit.
Tene is Tene.
How to stop Tene?
Ban a fucking IP for once in your  Arceus  damn life.
And if that doesn't work, install some other preventative measure. There is 0 reason to be a dumbass about the whole ordeal, if Tene didn't do it, someone else would.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: liquidfired on December 22, 2012, 12:23:18 pm
My opinion for what it matters:
Rigby griefs shit.
Rigby is Rigby
How to stop Rigby?
Ban a fucking IP for once in your  Arceus  damn life.
And if that doesn't work, install some other preventative measure. There is 0 reason to be a dumbass about the whole ordeal, if Rigby didn't do it, someone else would.
 


You're pretty pessimistic


Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 22, 2012, 04:01:47 pm
 


You're pretty pessimistic
Rigby is true to the point, but forgets about proxies :P
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: synderfin on December 22, 2012, 04:12:39 pm
Bending is an avatar: the last airbender plugin.
So he downloaded another useless plugin that has nothing to do with Pokemon. :/
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 22, 2012, 05:29:46 pm
(https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi259.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh305%2Fjeretry%2F2012-12-22_141204_zps6c950030.png&hash=cd0f8acc1b71527f30372b277463a5ad)

Two new ones, iWarpPad and WarpSigns


You have essentials and double plugin with WarpSigns.


iWarpPad? Well we use ScriptBlock, but that might be a bit complex for you.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: liquidfired on December 22, 2012, 05:33:56 pm
([url]https://www.pokemonserver.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi259.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh305%2Fjeretry%2F2012-12-22_141204_zps6c950030.png&hash=cd0f8acc1b71527f30372b277463a5ad[/url])

Two new ones, iWarpPad and WarpSigns


You have essentials and double plugin with WarpSigns.


iWarpPad? Well we use ScriptBlock, but that might be a bit complex for you.



 and Liquid uses command blocks
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: synderfin on December 22, 2012, 05:40:55 pm



 and Liquid uses command blocks
Actually that's smart. 1ce there isn't really any need for ScriptBlock anymore. It'll just make more lag.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 22, 2012, 09:49:41 pm
I prefer invisibility. Pressureplates and buttons are ugly.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: synderfin on December 22, 2012, 10:05:07 pm
There's a way Hypixel does it in his adventure maps that doesn't require pressure pads or buttons but I've got no idea how.
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: zekrom74 on December 22, 2012, 11:40:53 pm
Hypixel didn't do it, someone else did, and that someone else taught liquid about command blocks :P
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: liquidfired on December 23, 2012, 12:36:12 am
1ce you dont need Pressureplates. Didn't you see my warp point?


/say @p[x,y,z,r=radius] sdsdgsdae
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: Tenebrae on December 23, 2012, 03:13:40 am
1ce you dont need Pressureplates. Didn't you see my warp point?


/say @p[x,y,z,r=radius] sdsdgsdae
That sort if thing can end up becoming spam...


And I love scriptblock :p
Title: Re: Griefing the other server
Post by: 1cec0ld on December 23, 2012, 09:20:50 am
I don't know what a warp point is, so no I did not see it.