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PvP Server => Ban/Punishment-Related => Topic started by: xandergcool on February 15, 2013, 07:58:47 am

Title: stnglkabee
Post by: xandergcool on February 15, 2013, 07:58:47 am
he stole my gym challenger his stuff it was the only he had i typed /tpahere ka what i wanna meen KABO00M and i said dont accept or kill he tpaccepted and tped awway with all the stuff

Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Stnglkabee on February 15, 2013, 08:01:00 am
That would be your error. stngl-KA-bee If youd have just typed the full name this wouldnt have happened.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 01:41:22 pm
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say. What happened exactly?
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: ArchieSalt on February 15, 2013, 02:00:10 pm
He mistakenly TPA'd Stng to his gym by typing /tpahere Ka. Stng accepted and stole KABO00M's items.
This isn't the best thing to do when you're on thin ice with admins Stng.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 02:37:29 pm
He mistakenly TPA'd Stng to his gym by typing /tpahere Ka. Stng accepted and stole KABO00M's items.
This isn't the best thing to do when you're on thin ice with admins Stng.


Did he have KABO00M's stuff because he just beat him in a gymbattle?
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Frenzy_Monkey47 on February 15, 2013, 03:17:07 pm

Did he have KABO00M's stuff because he just beat him in a gymbattle?
No he took it and wont give it back
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 15, 2013, 03:40:00 pm
You should have been more careful with your tpa, and I'm torn on how to feel about it, should we make stng give back items to kaboom because of your mistake? Should we leave it as is? But that would punish kaboom who is not at fault. Should we make you reimburse kaboom for a careless tpa? I'm not sure
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 04:44:33 pm
You should have been more careful with your tpa, and I'm torn on how to feel about it, should we make stng give back items to kaboom because of your mistake? Should we leave it as is? But that would punish kaboom who is not at fault. Should we make you reimburse kaboom for a careless tpa? I'm not sure


I'm STILL not 100% of the entire situation. I say this in the least offensive way as possible but the original post is barely comprehensible.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Stnglkabee on February 15, 2013, 04:49:34 pm
So this is what happened. He had a challenger, he won the gym fight. He sent a tp to me and i went and got the stuff.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Frenzy_Monkey47 on February 15, 2013, 05:08:49 pm
So this is what happened. He had a challenger, he won the gym fight. He sent a tp to me and i went and got the stuff.
And you kept the stuff and refused to return it.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 15, 2013, 05:50:42 pm

I'm STILL not 100% of the entire situation. I say this in the least offensive way as possible but the original post is barely comprehensible.
dude fought a challenger is his gym named kaboom, won, typed /tpahere ka, which went to stnglKAbee stng accepted, got some items, left. The end.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 05:53:44 pm
Okay, that's what I thought till Frenzy said I was wrong. In the case, I say stng gives back the stuff. It ain't your shit man.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 15, 2013, 06:24:27 pm
Okay, that's what I thought till Frenzy said I was wrong. In the case, I say stng gives back the stuff. It ain't your shit man.
i want to agree with that, but i dont, Stng was Tpa'd there by xander's mistake, as gymleader he's reponsible for the items and should have been more careful with the TPA im more leaning toward having xander compensate kaboom
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 06:59:46 pm
i want to agree with that, but i dont, Stng was Tpa'd there by xander's mistake, as gymleader he's reponsible for the items and should have been more careful with the TPA im more leaning toward having xander compensate kaboom


Forced by Oddy to reply to this...


I see your point but remember, it's a rule for the gym leader to return everything to the trainer. IT's unfair to hold a trainer responsbile for a gymleaders mistake so at the very least the trainer should be compensated. Now, think about this:


If stng keeps the stuff, trainer gets nothing. Bad
If stng looses the stuff, trainer gets it back. Good
If stng keeps stuff and GymLeader goes out of his way to compensate, it takes time and regulation to make sure everything is in order. Bad.
If stng keep stuff and Server compensates, we are putting more money into the server (Which we don't want to do b/c of ecnomey). Bad.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 15, 2013, 07:04:39 pm

Forced by Oddy to reply to this...


I see your point but remember, it's a rule for the gym leader to return everything to the trainer. IT's unfair to hold a trainer responsbile for a gymleaders mistake so at the very least the trainer should be compensated. Now, think about this:


If stng keeps the stuff, trainer gets nothing. Bad
If stng looses the stuff, trainer gets it back. Good
If stng keeps stuff and GymLeader goes out of his way to compensate, it takes time and regulation to make sure everything is in order. Bad.
If stng keep stuff and Server compensates, we are putting more money into the server (Which we don't want to do b/c of ecnomey). Bad.
Where's the liability for mistakes, why is it good for stng to lose items, which as far As I am concerned, were rightfully aquired, he didn't trick him or break in he was sent a tap accepted it and got item.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 15, 2013, 07:53:22 pm
Where's the liability for mistakes, why is it good for stng to lose items, which as far As I am concerned, were rightfully aquired, he didn't trick him or break in he was sent a tap accepted it and got item.


I agree that it was a mistake and stng should have the items. But you're forcing the trainer to suffer from a gym leader mistake. That's not fair. Stng loses nothing from not getting that stuff.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 15, 2013, 08:07:34 pm

I agree that it was a mistake and stng should have the items. But you're forcing the trainer to suffer from a gym leader mistake. That's not fair. Stng loses nothing from not getting that stuff.
Im not making the trainer suffer, im saying the gym leader pay for his mistakes by returning the items from his own pocket
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: 1cec0ld on February 15, 2013, 08:53:03 pm
I swear Ive never seen this many admin posts in one thread.


What exactly was lost?

And why hasn't the 'victim' said anything?
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Frenzy_Monkey47 on February 16, 2013, 07:08:52 am
I swear Ive never seen this many admin posts in one thread.


What exactly was lost?

And why hasn't the 'victim' said anything?
He doesn't have a forum account.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: xandergcool on February 16, 2013, 07:32:13 am
Yeh But i said dont accept i made a fault i mented to type Ka of kaboom and he accepted and stole and before that i said leave the stuff -.-

Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: ArchieSalt on February 16, 2013, 09:55:35 am
It's obvious that Stng should be giving back KABO00M's stuff. Xander made a simple mistake which many other people would have also made. Stng unfairly took advantage of his mistake.
Its like Xander mistakenly dropping a pound on the floor when paying for something. Stng is behind him, steals it in front of his face and leaves. Its theft.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 16, 2013, 10:47:44 am
It's obvious that Stng should be giving back KABO00M's stuff. Xander made a simple mistake which many other people would have also made. Stng unfairly took advantage of his mistake.
Its like Xander mistakenly dropping a pound on the floor when paying for something. Stng is behind him, steals it in front of his face and leaves. Its theft.
how many times has this happened with people making the exchange at spawn or oaks lab, and what has our response always been, should have done it in a better place, its the same thing... shoulda been more careful
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Paradox on February 16, 2013, 10:55:19 am
how many times has this happened with people making the exchange at spawn or oaks lab, and what has our response always been, should have done it in a better place, its the same thing... shoulda been more careful


That's different, it had nothing to do with gymleaders and an innocent losing stuff.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: Prodigy39 on February 16, 2013, 11:01:20 am
Xander still should've been more careful. Bigger items have lost trading at spawn. I mean what's the worst he could have lost? Iron armor and a sword? I honestly think Stng should just keep the items and just have Xander replace it with like 1/2 stack of iron and be done with this.
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: oddy on February 16, 2013, 11:01:35 am

That's different, it had nothing to do with gymleaders and an innocent losing stuff.
its been with gym leaders its the same thing
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: 1cec0ld on February 16, 2013, 04:39:55 pm
He doesn't have a forum account.


Easily fixed.

And what was stolen
Title: Re: stnglkabee
Post by: xandergcool on February 17, 2013, 09:15:50 am
I already gave him my stuf now